Dan Pfeiffer

What does that contradict?

It contradicts what he said before, what he's going to say after.

I don't know the right answer.

I'm not a reporter.

It's not for me to decide, but there is just something uncomfortable with

Like, I both want people that reporters who take what he says seriously and hold him to account for those things, but also not treat his every utterance as like this huge exclusive get when he's just vomiting words into your phone.

You know, it's like it's very hard.

It's hard.

The, the other thing about this is I remember in, I was actually thinking I was coming to see you in the white house after the election in 2016.

Oh God.

And,

And I was in town.

I think I came in to see you in my old office.

And then I went in to see Obama.

And as I was walking in, Susan Rice, who was National Security Advisor at the time, and a bunch of the national security people had just walked out.

Obama had just done a call with a world leader.

And all the goons are in there briefing him.

They got all these experts.

And he said to me as I walked in, he's like, well, we're about to find out if all of the prep...

And the policy really matters as much as these guys say it is.