Dan Pfeiffer

It's California is it is a huge state.

It's an expensive state.

No one knows who anyone is other than the governor and the senators.

These these candidates, even though you're right.

But Sarah was the attorney general in the in Biden's agency as secretary and a member of Congress for a long time.

No one knows very much about him.

The same thing.

All these other people you're mentioning, other than Matt Mann, are state elected officials.

They have run statewide and no one knows anything.

And they don't have the money to introduce themselves.

The system here sucks because of how expensive it is to run ads.

And the state's too big to...

go around and meet everyone.

And local media is so hollered out that you can't even have an incredible earned media communication strategy to get well-known because no one sees that shit anymore.

And so this is what it is, and it's going to be uncomfortable.

We're going to have to make some tough decisions to ensure that California does not have a Republican governor.

Well, I think so in the Cox Newsom race, I think Cox got 38, got 40%.

Right.

And so when you add up what, like, I haven't looked at the average, but in general, it seems like Bianca plus Hilton's getting to like,

32.