Dan Pfeiffer

I do.

I do wonder if.

And this is it's politics, but it's a bit outside just, you know, electoral politics and congressional politics inside D.C.

that it's that it's time to sort of organize a much more nationwide response to what ICE is doing.

That is because it's the midterms are nine months away.

And, you know, we have three more years of the Trump administration.

And at some point.

When do you decide that like, you know, we got to step up and get out to the streets and defend our neighbors here because they could be coming for any of us.

So it's sort of like what I thought originally about the first shutdown, but it would be more that than some kind of strategy to assume that our leverage would be used to kind of get the administration to get ICE to back down just by virtue of a little bit of shutdown.

They don't need the money.

Yeah.

But it's time to maybe organize nationwide against ICE here.

The other big focus on Capitol Hill Thursday was former special counsel Jack Smith's appearance in front of the House Judiciary Committee as part of their investigation into Smith's old investigations of Donald Trump.

Both the criminal charges brought against the president related to January 6th and the criminal charges he faced over hiding classified documents at Mar-a-Lago and refusing to give them back.

Smith had already agreed to a deposition for the committee, but asked for an open hearing as well so that the country could hear him defend his actions.

Here's some of what it sounded like.

You're just the latest act that they've brought in.

That was Michael Fanone off one of the Capitol Police officers saying, go fuck yourself.

Good for him.

What is this?