Dan Pfeiffer

And you just have to have so low regard for your own position in the world to think that's the right thing to do.

Like you're the Vice President of the United States.

You could have influence.

You could be a moral leader in some way, shape, or form.

But it never even occurs to him to do the right thing.

Not for one second.

All they know of politics – let's say they just happen to be conservative-leaning, grew up in Republican households, Republican parts of the country.

If you are in your 20s or even if you're 30, all you know of politics in your party is Donald Trump.

You remember nothing else.

And you probably think of, because of the way the online conversation has been shaped, that everyone else is a traitor to the cause or a rhino or whatever else.

And that Trump is –

I mean, there was that very infamous Hillary Clinton ad in 2016 about the kids watching Donald Trump.

That was a bad political argument.

It was a bad ad.

But there is something to be – there is a right point there, which is the president and political leaders have influence on the American people.

And what they define as acceptable conduct –

takes hold.

And he's not like Trump and now Vance are not modeling good behavior for anyone.

They're saying you can say or do whatever you want.

And the more outrageous, the more offensive, the better, right?