Dan Pfeiffer

Gallup has been tracking the question of whether immigration is a good thing or a bad thing.

The question of whether immigration is a good thing hit its highest level in June of 2025.

79% of Americans believe immigration is a good thing for the country.

And that is happening while they're tweeting re-migrate, the mass ICE agents are storming the country, the most powerful people in this country are making an argument that immigration is bad.

They are losing that argument.

So if a day comes, and I believe it will come when Democrats have power again,

The political environment has been created to pass real immigration reform in this country.

Yes, it'll be tough on the border.

Yes, it'll deal with gang members and drug dealers and criminals in this country, but will include a path to citizenship for people who've been here for a long time, paying taxes, working hard in their community.

And it's because of Stephen Miller and J.D.

Vance and these other people.

They are losing the argument.

They are a small minority of the country.

They just have a disproportionate amount of power.

The country is not moving in this direction.

politically.

It just happens to be that this small minority has power at this moment.

I heard you and Ezra Klein talk about this on his podcast on Saturday.

Saw that pop up on my feed.

I knew you were doing the interview.