Dan Pfeiffer

He's been convicted of fraud.

He has been accused of fraud.

Many fraudsters in the administration.

Yeah.

J.D.

I don't really know, John.

I would say in preparation for this pod, which I was to take deadly seriously, I went back and read the State of the Union because I couldn't watch it again.

It is less coherent in written form by far.

And the fraud section is particularly incoherent.

It starts with Somalia, goes to Minnesota, quick pivot to a tragic story about a car accident, then a new policy proposal on commercial licenses for undocumented people.

And that's the whole thing.

That's the narrative.

That's the message.

Yeah, I mean, I guess I kind of sort of understand...

what might possibly resemble a strategy here, which is to basically take Ronald Reagan's welfare queen strategy of the 80s and then marry it with immigration.

But it's not to be done in a particularly coherent way.

And it's not – most people don't really know what they're talking about.

Those are things that are not necessarily connected to each other.

It's more sort of like – and you can really see this when you read the speech.

It is just a series of comments on viral stories in the right-wing media stitched into a speech.