Dan Pfeiffer

on-camera intervention here.

Yeah, what is that?

It seems like it should be a gigantic scandal that they would like to do this, right?

Seems like it should be a big deal.

It's not.

There's a lot happening today.

It's not to even make the A block of this podcast.

It literally came after an online feud you had.

It was about the State of the Union.

Yeah, I understand.

There was a reason it fell to where it did in the lineup.

But it does speak to how impossible this war is to sell to the American people.

They cannot do it in any sort of normal way.

It's why they're not even trying to do it.

They're so desperate for a rationale for a war that the neocons, of which Trump is now one of them apparently, have wanted for decades and decades and decades.

They're so desperate to create a pretext for this war that they are – one of the ideas on the whiteboard is let's get some Americans killed so that Americans will be mad and want to go to war with Iran.

Seems bad.

I don't think it would work.

I really don't.

I think that the Trump people think the American people are stupid, and they're not.