Dan Rankin (aka Trials)

So the two fingers towards the eyes and back at you, that's like, I see you.

I see you.

You look like me.

We look like each other.

I don't see anyone else in this room that looks like us.

So you became fast friends.

Immediately.

And how quickly did you click?

Oh, me and Briggs from day one, like always.

So the very first demo tape that he's got out called Homemade Bombs, I produced the title track on that.

Like we have been thick since the jump.

When he came to my house for those two weeks and his mail started arriving at my house a few weeks later.

I realized pretty quickly, like, I have a family friend here now.

So there was no announcement.

There's just a mail comes in.

That's exactly how Briggs does.

Okay.

In Adelaide.

So then the two of you decided to put this extraordinary album out, Reclaim Australia.

Like I said, there was an idea you had, I don't know if you both had this, that this would be somehow a way of burning down the house or, to use another kind of American baseball analogy, leaving it all out on the field.