Dan Rather
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48 Hours
Homicide in Spokane
A string of murders that stymied authorities for years, the body count steadily rising, along with the heat on one city's police force. Women were dying. Were the police slow off the mark, too inexperienced to catch the killer? Or worst of all, did they simply bungle the case? All charges they vigorously deny. Their chief accuser in many ways is one of their own.
48 Hours
Homicide in Spokane
How tough is it to catch a serial killer? Very, say experts in the field. For one thing, the perpetrator rarely looks the part, and since he usually has no remorse, he doesn't act guilty either. Most serial offenders are considered to be fairly smart, smart enough to at least keep quiet about their evil deeds in the presence of strangers, even if some may openly taunt the authorities.
48 Hours
Homicide in Spokane
In Spokane, Washington, 10 women had been murdered in two years. After a painstaking investigation and sometimes painful scrutiny of the police, authorities finally got their man. Harold Dow picks up the story. This is Breaking News.
48 Hours
Homicide in Spokane
A former detective with a lot of miles on the homicide beat and a lot of baggage too. A key figure in another notorious case. Harold Dow goes inside the highly charged investigation of murder in Spokane.
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Homicide in Spokane
Trying to solve the puzzle of the serial killer. Serial killers are unique.
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Homicide in Spokane
Those who profile serial killers offer this chilling assessment. that Yates has probably committed even more murders than he's been linked to thus far. There's some very long gaps in his self-confessed killing spree, and the experts say it's unlikely a serial killer would go that long, a decade or more, between murders.
48 Hours
Homicide in Spokane
Investigators in Washington state have been making lists of every unsolved murder everywhere Yates is known to have been during the last 25 years. But so far, aside from those crimes that have already landed him in prison for life, Robert Yates isn't talking.
48 Hours
Homicide in Spokane
I'm Dan Rather. A serial killer terrorizes Spokane, Washington. Did mistakes by the police cost lives? 48 hours right now. A baffling murder spree.
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Homicide in Spokane
At least a dozen women murdered in three years, like Debbie's sister, Shawn. She loved her children so much. There were more questions than answers. This was our first serial killer case. Were the police overlooking clues in plain sight? Controversial ex-cop Mark Furman started turning up the heat. We're going, what are they doing? He is investigating the investigators.
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Homicide in Spokane
It's like a body stacking up like cordwood. Then finally, police get their man, a former Army pilot and father of five. Murder in the first degree of you plead. Mr. Yates deserves to die.
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Homicide in Spokane
But Furman charges the delay was deadly. Nine, ten women would still be alive. Did police mistakes cost lives? Isn't it easy to Monday morning quarterback? A 48 Hours Mystery. Murder in Spokane. Who knows more about pressure than a cop working homicide, always under the gun?
48 Hours
A Deadly Family Secret
I'm Dan Rather. He was a proud father of three, married to the same woman for 30 years. But when Bob Dorotek suddenly disappeared, the trail of suspicion led right back home. 48 hours, right now.
48 Hours
A Deadly Family Secret
This is the family that appeared to be living in harmony until one day, more than a year ago, when the usual peace and quiet was shattered. setting off a chain of events that would leave a family torn apart. Erin Moriarty investigates by following a trail no one expected to travel.
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A Deadly Family Secret
More than a year after Bob Dorotek was murdered, his body dumped by a mountain road near San Diego, his widow Jane faces trial. Although she firmly denies any involvement in the crime, there is troubling evidence to overcome, especially blood evidence taken from the master bedroom of the couple's hillside home.
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A Deadly Family Secret
She's been in prison nearly six months, unable to raise the unusually high bail in the case, $3 million. And Jane Dorotek's lawyers are weighing a risky strategy, one that seems certain to fan the flames of animosity in a family whose better days are but a flickering memory. Here again is Erin Moriarty.
48 Hours
A Deadly Family Secret
The ties that bind families together are so basic to our lives, it's easy, too easy, to take them for granted. That is, until they're gone. Nearly all families have their share of secrets, mysteries. But sometimes the burden of keeping those secrets can be so great even the closest of family ties can start to unravel. So it is with one family whose mystery involves murder.
48 Hours
A Cop Behind Bars
The murder case against Patrick Bradford took almost a year to piece together, a painstaking and at times painful investigation for his fellow police officers in Evansville, Indiana. But by the end of a three-week trial, even some of his staunchest defenders on the force had become firmly convinced Bradford was indeed guilty of murdering his girlfriend, Tammy Lohr.
48 Hours
A Cop Behind Bars
But now, nine years later, Patrick Bradford's family and friends still believing he is innocent are pressing ahead with their fight to set him free. They are convinced that police, feeling pressured, rushed to judgment.
48 Hours
A Cop Behind Bars
I'm Dan Rather. He wanted to be a hero, and to many he was, until he was charged with murder. 48 hours, right now. Patrick Bradford was cut out to be a cop.
48 Hours
A Cop Behind Bars
Susan Spencer has the first television interview with Patrick Bradford. Tammy's dead. Somebody killed her.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Jonathan Haidt Returns (on the Anxious Generation)
It's been many, many years since we first had you on.
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Rebecca Lemov (on brainwashing)
Right. That you're closest to. Yeah.
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Jesse Eisenberg
Now watch out for those zombies with this new rake.
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Jesse Eisenberg
I was told to stop saying it for exactly that reason.
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Armchair Anonymous: Nurses II
Wondery Plus subscribers can listen to Armchair Expert early and ad-free right now. Join Wondery Plus in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts, or you can listen for free wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome, welcome, welcome to Armchair Anonymous. I'm Dan Rather, and I'm joined by the Duchess.
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And is it clear from the imaging what the object is?
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If you had to guess how many inches beyond the anus it was, could you guess?
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He really had a long finger to work with.
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Oh. You kind of maybe got to fill air around it. You might have to be inflating basically as you pull it out.
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Oh, I'm going to guess. I mean, his bike is there.
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It would have to go back to get your bike. And also you just had a pretty massive procedure up there and you're going to now ride.
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I bet there'd be like a HIPAA issue. Like they couldn't call the next hospital and be like, hey, what was that? I think wouldn't that violate HIPAA somehow?
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I have an immediate guess. I think it was a bottle of conditioner. I think he was in the shower and he decided to masturbate and he thought it might feel nice to have this bottle up his butt. Now, when you think back in your mind of the image, could it have been a conditioner bottle?
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I take it all back. He was sitting on a picnic table having a nice cold... It was an accident.
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And I'm sorry to ask for this detail, but my assumption now is that the thin end was first.
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Of the soda or whatever? Yeah. No, because the cap would have had to have been on.
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I hope he figured out how to enjoy that hobby without any further complications. If someone wants to do that and that feels nice, I'm all for it.
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No, that is really a cruel detail of the story.
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Now I'm double sad because he didn't have anyone to call, but then I don't know that that's the truth either because he might have just been like, there's no way I'm calling anyone.
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Well, Lucy, this has been incredible. I kind of had fingers crossed we would get something stuck up the butt story. You read about those occasionally.
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Based on the tone of the show, I thought this might interest you.
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And from the bottom of my heart, I'm more grateful for y'all than even doctors. I think the stuff that you guys have to do is just the most impressive.
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From the bottom of my butt to the bottom of your heart.
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All right. Well, it was lovely meeting you. And again, thank you so much for the work you do.
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The depths of my heart. The deepest part.
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You're hung up on bottom because we're talking about someone's bottom.
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The rectum of the heart. That's my point is we're talking about bottoms right now, like butt bottoms.
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Probably. Or Abraham Lincoln. I'm never going to watch that doc.
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How are you guys? So good. Do you want to use a code name? Let's go with the name Evan.
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Yeah, and I like the name Evan. Do you have a best friend named Evan or something? I don't.
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Oh, okay. So, Evan, where are you in the country? You can be as vague as you'd like. I'm just curious. I'm in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
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Now, were you on the hunt for Monica so you could explore something romantic with her? No, I'm actually gay. Oh, okay.
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Okay, so you are a nurse, I presume? I'm an emergency room nurse. For how long?
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Okay, so you have a juicy story. I'm sure you've got many, but you have pared it down to this one.
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And is protocol to kind of, for lack of a better word, anesthetize them? Do you want to get them on some kind of benzo to calm everyone down?
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This is the worst kind of bomb threat, I'm going to say.
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Evan, have you spent any time trying to get into the mind of why that would be satisfying? I can generally find my way into understanding people's motives, but I don't even understand what the pleasure of that is. Other than if I just had this total ire for government and I wanted to keep fucking up municipalities, I can't really get it.
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Well, they say that about arsonists, that they often are there watching the fire.
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Yeah, you're like the Marines. My first thought as someone who's always thinking about mechanical stuff is like, well, certainly among those 50 patients, some of them have to be hooked to machines to stay alive that require electricity. Are there generators that are put out in the parking lot or are there battery supplies on these carts?
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The Sharky Sharky Duchess. Yes. We need to do these more. We need to do these as regularly as poopy your pants because nurses deliver.
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Not going to live. What? We're not going to live in LA? Or are they going to shut down hospitals?
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Okay. I'm just not sure what thing we're going to. Just do it. We're afraid to leave LA? I just don't want to go to the hospital. Okay. Okay. We're knocking on wood because L.A. has so many good hospitals.
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Oh, man, that is. Thank you, Evan, so much for sharing that story with us.
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Okay, I'm just going to ask you one simple question before we go, because the previous nurse we just spoke with said that every single nurse has a foreign object in rectum story. You don't need to tell it. Just do you have a foreign object in rectum story? I have many. Oh, well, yeah, you were in L.A. They always fall onto it.
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Shit, maybe we need our own prompt. Oh, rectal. What was it called?
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Yeah, he said foreign body. She said foreign body and you said foreign body. I just want to get the prompt right. Well, I'll submit another one.
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Okay, well, great meeting you, Evan. Thank you so much for your job.
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Keep it up. Thank you. We will. You too. All right, be well. Bye.
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I'd like to open it up to everybody. Because maybe someone will be brave enough to tell foreign body and their own rectum story. Because I want to know how you lose control of it. Because you must have a game plan. Obviously, you're only going to insert so much of it. And then you go too far. And then I guess you lose grip. Then you try to get it out and it just goes up.
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I just want you to know that I was just on a trip with eight people and all eight of us got it. So I'm with you. I'm in the noro camp.
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It gets scary when you're pregnant, right? It ups the ante a lot.
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I'm going to go out on a limb right now. You're the first of four nurses we're going to talk to. And the second I saw your face, I literally was like, oh, right. Nurses are the most fun people on the planet.
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I got to tell you, you are a second Canadian.
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Anyone that can see the shit you guys see hourly and be laughing and smiling. I mean, that's my kind of people.
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So goes the adage. Where are you at, Peyton?
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Because he doesn't know what the fuck's going on.
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But a troubled past. Is that what you wanted to say? Or a beating around the bush that the most horrific thing ever happened there. Is that palpable when you're there or have people moved on?
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Oh. Do you ever get to see the people when they return to sanity?
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Wow. Was there any point having not had any family members in it and maybe not having the correct expectations for the job? Were there moments at the beginning where you're like, oh, fuck this. I didn't choose right. Or did you immediately know it was for you?
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Yeah, you have a finite capacity and then you have a real life outside of it. And maybe you're sleep deprived and maybe you're having a marital issue and you add all these things together. It's impossible. I will say it's prepared you nicely to have a child, though.
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Yeah, Tori, I'm so sorry you're feeling so ill, but congratulations on your impending baby time. And it was great meeting you. And thank you for telling us that story.
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Feel better. Take a nice nap now. And thanks so much for railing.
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Yeah, I got a little claustrophobic at the thought of a seven-point harness.
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That happened with my dad when he had this very massive head-on collision when I was in eighth grade. And I had to go to the hospital, and they said basically go in and say goodbye. He's unconscious. I went in there, and his head was like the size of a basketball. And he woke up while I was in there. And the first thing he did is pulled the breathing tube out.
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And I was begging him, no, daddy, you need that, you need that. Oh my God, it was so stressful.
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God bless the nurses. Yeah, they're incredible. Again, round of applause. We love them. We love them. I love you. Love you. That delivered.
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Yeah. I'm going to add, I have another stereotype, not just about nurses, but I have a stereotype about Minnesotans. I would argue that Minnesotans are like Michiganders, but a little even elevated.
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They have so much Scandinavian in them, right, that they're modest by nature. They hate attention and acclaim. So it's kind of the same stock as Michigan, but they have this nice layer of humility, I'd say.
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Well, home of Prince. Any place that can claim Prince.
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Okay. I'm sure you've racked up many stories as a nurse, but you're going to hit us with one in particular.
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Oh, perfect. I just ate, this is great.
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Well, evolutionarily, it has to be the one where most repulse.
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It is. Boy, they go through it all. Heroes. Day in and day out. I love nurses so much.
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Do you guys ever put anything under your nose?
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Yeah, you did. Oh, have you tried that?
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Don't try that because I don't want you to choke.
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She really waited a while, it sounds like. She got through most of her life with this gap.
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They're just a party in their stories.
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You can see grandma's brain? No. We can see granny's brain.
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Am I right to assume that's the last thing you want infected?
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She said she likes to. She wants to make mittens happy.
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Well, they eat their face. Yeah, yeah. The cat got a little ahead of itself. I think the cat was like, Grandma's dying and dead, and I can't wait.
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Because someone needed to go in there surgically and get rid of this necrotic flesh and everything.
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And what was her spirits? She sounds very nice.
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What ended up happening to Granny? She got a room, obviously.
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Well, that's good. And would you have heard if she had passed in that upstairs room? Would they have told you? Probably. Okay. So I think all signs point to she's probably with mittens now on her lap.
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Peyton, what if you saw her boogieing down the sidewalk on all fours with the most agility you'd ever seen?
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What an experiment. I have a hunch we're going to talk to you again because I'm sure you were probably debating which story to even tell.
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That really puts a new spin on cat lady.
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Do you think that's Laura's dream in life?
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Of course. Oh, you're as cute as they come. Look at the symmetry. It's completely homogeneous.
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Is there one moment that was your favorite?
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any anonymous but we just listened to the munchausen by proxy andrea dunlop i don't have munchausen want to say oh yeah thank you for clarifying well you guys don't have a child yet no you can still have it with a partner and but it's most common for the mother to be in the medical yeah we'll let you know okay keep us updated on that well again we were going to talk to you about another nurse story but it might be like tell us about a story of inflicting munchausens on your child i'll wait for that prompt for sure
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Foreign body. We learned that all nurses have a foreign body and rectum story, which is exciting as all hell. Please enjoy Nurses Part 2. We are supported by Mint Mobile. It's time to leave your overpriced wireless plans jaw-dropping monthly bills and unexpected overages. Get huge savings with Mint Mobile. They're offering any three-month plan for only 15 bucks a month, even their unlimited plan.
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Well, delightful meeting both of you. Good luck down there in Virginia. Thank you very much. So nice to meet you. Bye. Hello. Is this Lucy?
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How you doing? Have we caught you at work?
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And if there were any doubt of the validity to your claim of being a nurse, you are currently in scrubs, which really lends to your case.
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Oh, and where are you in the country?
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OK, so I assume you have a kabillion stories you could have told. Did you have a hard time whittling it down to which one?
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Who would have thought nursing could take you as many places as like a flight attendant?
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So this would be the one you're at a dinner party and they want to hear a story. This is the one you always reel out.
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Armchair Anonymous: Nurses II
Great. Because I was going to say the times I've had to go to the doctor and talk about something I just really don't want to talk about. I have decided I'm willing to tell this one person. In your mind, you've committed to that. And then you get there and you start realizing, no, I'm going to have to tell many people. And I hate that. Is that common?
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Nurses II
Where like they don't really want to tell you because they've already decided only one person shall ever know this.
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Armchair Anonymous: Nurses II
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Armchair Anonymous: Nurses II
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Armchair Anonymous: Nurses II
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Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Wondery Plus subscribers can listen to Armchair Expert early and ad-free right now. Join Wondery Plus in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts, or you can listen for free wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome, welcome, welcome to Armchair Anonymous. I'm Dan Rather, and I'm joined by Mrs. Mouse. Today is Crazy X. Tell us about your Crazy X. People have Crazy Xs out there. They do.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Oh, my God. Now we're veering into psychopath territory.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Can I ask you a question? And I don't want to victim shame, but it is always curious to me. And I just want to explore why people are very resistant to calling the police. Did you want to call the police? Did you call the police? Why didn't you call the police?
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Oh, he redacted things. This is so creepy. Hey, Jackie, when you were with him for the year and a half, did you get any sense that he was, like, unstable? Other than the, like, controlling stuff, was he dealing with other issues in his life in a bizarre way? Yeah.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Sure. Well, he's trying to control you and you're probably pushing back and it's probably endless.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
It's a weird testament to the power of journaling, but here we are. I'm shocked he gave it to you. I would have thought maybe he'd want it for himself.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
And was that truly it? Did you never bump into him again?
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
God, that's what makes these things so complicated and maddening. Like how is anyone to figure out which one will get over it and which one's going to escalate? And like you're dealing with something that's kind of illogical and already doesn't make much sense. And yeah, it must be so stressful trying to figure out like how serious is this threat?
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
I hate how many women have these stories. I really hate it.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Now, when the show Nurse Jackie came out, were you delighted or upset?
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Oh, my goodness. Look at this wonderful sound booth you've constructed.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Heather, thanks for listening as well.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
All right. Nice meeting you. Take care.
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Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
I'm a sweet pie. Yeah. I want her as a nurse.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
It is. You're just like in an innocent relationship in college and it turns into this horror show. Dude, someone trashed my apartment.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
I mean, they're not afraid of the law.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
I'm trying to think of the grossest, weirdest thing I've done in a breakup.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
You know, slash tires and smash windshields. No. Oh, my God. I was my worst self when I got cheated on in 12th grade.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Well, I tried to fight the boy who fucked her.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
How dare you? I'm going to go to your house now. He was really good. He was gentle. He was really, really good. Yeah. Best lovemaking of her life.
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Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Nice to meet you, Chris. You look like you could definitely be in Leonard Skinner.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
You got a real Skinner look and I love it.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Ooh, nice. I love how people from Louisville say Louisville.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
But behind you, too, there's a lot of nice sound dampening.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Oh, sure, sure, sure. Okay, so you have a crazy ex, which is a bit of a relief, I gotta say, because we've talked to two women, and it's just... And they're horrific stories. Yeah, they're horrific, and these poor women are terrified. So if we can hear from a terrified man, that would help right the ship a little bit.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Already, you're a much better guy than most. You're totally okay with that. That's great.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Oh, my God. Perfect. How old's your baby?
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
I guess I'll see you tomorrow. Yes, you're right. I guess we're still together.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
It goes on for quite a while. Are we using your real name?
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
So, okay. I'm going to, okay. Now I'm just going to let this proceed.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
And so you're not named after Carly Simon because you would have spelled it differently.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Yeah, this conversation right now would be about visitation rights, not about where we're going to buy a house.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
So it's your buddies fucking with you. They're like pranking people from your phone or you're participating.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Yeah. I feel like that's on a questionnaire sometimes. Like, have you ever had a restraining order filed against you? It's not like being labeled a sex offender, but it's not great.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Monica's not going to like that takeaway, but I feel very confirmed in my fear. There should be professionals. There should be like sex workers. There's singular businesses taking virginity.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Well, Chris, it's a damn delight to meet you.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Thank you both. All right. Take care, Chris.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
You like when people spell names. You and I have talked about this in the past, Monica.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
I thought a baby was going to answer the call when they pranked her. Oh, it's been nine months. That's what you thought the big twist was. And the baby answered and said, Dada? The baby knew his number. I thought she was going to threaten to hurt herself because that's pretty common. That can happen.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
People get really emotional and they act unpredictably.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
I guess the title is Crazy Acts. Fuck with you.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
If we did an episode where we got to air one thing about one another that was really inconsequential, but that we couldn't accept, would you know what yours would be?
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Okay. You have a crazy ex. I mean, everyone does, but you have a crazy ex that we're going to hear about.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Yes. I'm going to take up two seconds of your time because we're going to have a real life thing in front of you, OK?
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
So while it was ringing, I said to Monica, let's do an episode where we both air something about one another that's really inconsequential. We shouldn't care, but we want the person to change that. And then you answered.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Yep, because it just happened. Why won't you put your phone on do not disturb? You know, it won't vibrate if you put it on do not disturb. And I hear it through all the interviews downstairs, and I hear it nonstop. It was ringing off the hook yesterday in our back-to-back interviews.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
I have suggested do not disturb many times.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
I love the way this went. But Lauren, do you do a show that is audio centric where like audio is kind of important?
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
There you go. Thank you. But see, this is great and I'm open to it. That's okay. Tell me. I can take it. We're best friends. You know what it is? My great curiosity is, do you know you can do that?
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Are you afraid you'll forget to turn it back on to focus? Because I could remind you at the end of every episode.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Okay. Are you glad you got to be privy to this? Because this is what happens quite often.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Did you think you didn't have it? Is that what you were just about to say? Shut up. Okay. Lauren, you have a very nice closet. And I'm seeing some kind of snake skinny platform things behind me that are exciting.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
And what I notice you're doing, and I wonder, I want to ask Monica if she does this too, you have one shoe that points out and one shoe that points in. Is that what you do too, Monica? I do. Should I be doing that?
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
What the fuck? We'll set the stage for us.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Okay, that makes a lot of sense. Yeah, am I going one inch, three inch? Where are we at?
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Will you feel it's an invasive question if I ask how tall you are?
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
That's lovely. That's a good height. Minnie and Mighty.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Wait, isn't there an Okie from Muskogee? Isn't that a thing?
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
That's right. It's a Merle Haggard song.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
An oaky from Muskogee. Do you know that term, Monica? I've heard it, yeah. That's so good. An oaky from Muskogee. Wow.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
God bless those outlaws that were just singing it from the roof. You know, famously, do you know this, Monica? Willie Nelson, when he was invited to the White House, he went up on the roof and smoked a joint.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
I bet it was Carter. That's going to be my guess. Maybe Rob will figure that out while we're talking. You're right. It's Carter.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Ah, he and Chip banged a doobie up there on the White House. That's great.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
If there was anyone who would not be bummed when they walked outside to see that weed smoking, it'd be Carter.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Oh, it's incredible. It's really cool. Okay. Okay, Lauren. You got a story for us. You have a crazy ex.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
What was it about him that tickled your fancy? Was he gorgeous or something?
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
That's mildly comforting. We're not talking murder.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
They're at the bar and at Chili's too.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
I think I have one. But I don't think it was realized till after. Now this, I got to give a disclaimer to this. Obviously, this should have been foreseen. Obviously, Crazy X entails some stalking. So if that's an experience you had, this probably- Isn't for you. You want to skip it.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
He has nothing to do with this whole situation.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Oh, my God. Lauren, what a plot twist. I don't know why. This might be unfair to people with this condition. But when I think of these flashers in the train, I can't wrap my head around. If I'm filling in the blanks, I'm assuming that person's the weirdest motherfucker and I would be able to detect that.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
I am very shocked he admitted to all that, to be honest with you. I'm surprised he didn't go like, this person pissed me off and I'm like, I'm going to show him my dick. Like, that's pretty wild he came clean like that.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Yeah, what were your follow-up questions? You must have just been dumbfounded.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
They can't hold you. If they set a bail, they set a call.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
I've read that. What they're after is they like the look on the person's face. The shock. Did he say that?
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Did you, by the way, I would not be judgmental. In fact, maybe I'd even admire this about you because you could go like, yeah, you need to go get punished, but also you could have compassion for him. I don't want that condition.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
This could be potentially really heartbreaking, Lauren. Like if I was so in love with someone and I found out they had this thing, that would not be easy. It's not like I go like, oh, great. So now I don't feel all the ways I've always felt about them.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Wow. I didn't see that. Delightful ending coming our way.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Although, I will say, normally when you have to call off a wedding, you have to go like, yeah, I just decided I didn't want to be with them forever. But this is like so clean. It turns out he's a flasher.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Wait, can I ask you one quick question? I guess this is maybe a PSA for dudes. My hunch is he was telling you how cool graffiti was and I'm going to crew and brother, this is awesome. You probably weren't ever that enthralled by it, but you're probably placating him like, oh, cool, hon. Yeah, pretty much. It's hard for us to know us boys.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
I just might feel more in love with them than I actually was because I wasn't allowed to be with them for a reason that was out of my control. I feel like it's just ripe for that.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
It's not good. Let's add that to the list of things to fix.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Well, Lauren, thank you for telling us that. And thanks for mediating our conflict at the beginning. And your story was so good. Now we're feeling good. Yeah. And me too.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
All right. Well, be well. Thank you so much.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
All right. Take care. Oh my God, that gal is so positive.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
I said part of my question was something insignificant you shouldn't care about. So I owned how trivial this is.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Well, yeah, because it distracts me. I get worried the guest is like, who's ringing this? I'm going to answer that.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
That was wild. We got kind of every variety of that.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Like we're trying to tell you about this thing and you're being nice. And then we're misled to think this is cool.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Well, no, no. I think the rule is pretty clear. It's would you stick around as they tackled this problem?
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
That's fair. You would never stick with someone who's not going to address it. But if you love someone and they're going to work their ass off on this thing, I think you would stick around for that.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
yikes also if you saw the look on someone you love's face of the shame when they told you i do think i know that'd be very powerful yeah again it's all how they say it if they get like defensive and denying but no but if someone just has that moment where they come clean and they're full of shame i think the best part of us would want to help that person figure it out
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
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Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
No! Oh, I love this part. It's like the Outsiders.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Now, this is a question Monica would never ask, but I will because I'm a boy. Who won and lost? Was there winners and losers?
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
I just want to know if your valiant boyfriend prevailed.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
I was open to the notion you were going to say they had a tag off, like a dance off. Like they got to a rail yard and they're like, you've got that train car. We've got this one. Let's see whose piece is fucking better.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
It made him unravel. Yes. Well, in his defense, he doesn't deserve any defense. But boy, there couldn't be anything rougher than your ex going to your hero.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
impossible coincidence. How did it resolve?
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Did the fight resolve anything? Did he stop tagging up? No, no, no. Of course. It rarely does, I suppose.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Yeah. Skip the first two. Just skip the whole fucking thing.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
That's a very freaky experience to be walking around and go like, oh, he was there. Oh, he's there.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Well, what he's doing is peeing on things. Yeah. Like a dog.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Is your current husband a misfit of any kind?
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Did you ever hear through the grapevine? Did he outgrow his angsty shit? And is he an artist now?
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Go get a burrito and a Diet Coke and two martinis and kick your feet up. It's Friday. Enjoy the day off. You've got a day off. No homework today.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
You just gave me a great idea, Rob. Write down, have you ever dated a drug dealer? So you could probably do a different prompt. Like he have randoms show up at the house. Was he dealing out of the house or would he meet people places? And how much money was he making doing this? Was he like fly and had a bunch of around town money?
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Okay. He was dealing in like kilos and stuff.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Oh, wow. How has it permanently impacted your association with graffiti? When you see graffiti, you just go like, he's fucking clowns. Do you like it?
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
I find myself conflicted about it. I'll see some, and it's great. It is. It's art. It's beautiful. But then this happens more in Europe, particularly Paris. You'll see this incredible marble statue that is 600 years old in some arrogant... fucking narcissist spray painted all over it to get his own glory. It's got to be a him. And I'm like, those make me irrationally upset.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Well, Carly, what's clear from this conversation is you're a catch. Everyone's lining up. That's right. You're spending no time alone. So congrats.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
You went two, six, and then married. It's lovely meeting you.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Well, lovely meeting you. Shout out to mom. Thank you, mom. Keep consuming all those things. And shout out sister and best friend.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Do you want to look at my veins, you pervert?
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
You're in a doctor's office, so my presumption was you like veins.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Oh, okay. We're not preventing someone from medical care.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Okay. Jackie, are we using your real name?
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Wonderful. And where in the world are you other than a doctor's office?
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
We don't get a lot of New Orleans callers.
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Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
It was Malcolm. Yeah, it's like becoming a woman's college.
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Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
That whole area around there, the Garden District and all that stuff is so dreamy.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Oh, wow. And where are you from originally?
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Do you find when Monica and I have dust-ups that you being the same age and a Virgo, are you always on her side?
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Okay. Okay. You're giving us a very fair shake.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
We got a big update today. And you'll even get a visual.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
Oh. Okay, Jackie, you have a crazy ex story and we're dying to hear it.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
You know, it's funny, Jackie, that you would say that as we've only talked to one other person and it immediately occurred to me, these are generally probably going to be stalkers.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Ex
And when you're naive, I guess there's some side of you that it's flattering, right? Like, oh my God, he thinks I'm so hot. It's dangerous if I am wearing...