Dan Reed

They set out to create this sort of counter film, and they failed.

They couldn't make it stick.

And so instead, they've come up with this jukebox movie that sort of stops before the difficult bit.

And it seems like a misrepresentation of the truth.

There's a couple of things to be said about the desperate money grabbing.

The only desperate money grabbing that's going on is the Jackson estate and the Jackson family desperately grabbing the money to be made from the exploitation of Michael Jackson's works, right?

That's where the money is being made.

The protagonists in my 2019 documentary have never made a penny

from their claims that they made against jackson it's been 13 years now since they filed their claims in a court and it's been obviously seven years since leaving neverland came out they haven't made a penny so so that's uh you know uh um not true about the money um the fact that he was acquitted well he was acquitted partly on the on the thanks to the

performance on the witness stand of Wade Robson, who is one of the guys in my film, who lied on the stand in defense of Jackson and was a key piece of testimony in Jackson's favor.

And then he's obviously now completely changed his story.

And that is really the subject of Leaving Neverland is how people

managed to leave their predators, their abusers, and come out and, you know, face the truth, which was very difficult for him.

And lastly, I think, look, no one, including Jackson himself, denies that he spent the night behind a locked door, many, many nights, countless nights, with little boys who were not his children.

And my question is to the people who don't think he

was a child sex abuser, what was he doing?

What was he doing in his bedroom alone with a little child?

You know, just that alone, proving that the predator was in the company of a child alone at night is often enough to convict someone of child sex offenses.

Well, I think that what you said about the duck, if it quacks like a duck, walks like a duck, swims like a duck, it probably is a duck and it definitely is a duck in this case.

Look, I think the issue of people enjoying his music, Michael Jackson's an American myth.