Dan Reed

Wade did.

There's two parts to this.

One is like taking money to shut up.

And the other is sincerely that, you know, what happens is, and this is one of the things I discovered while I was making the film, is that when kids are abused by someone like Jackson, who is amazing, who they trust, who's a, you know, a sort of admired personality, these kids end up defending their abuser.

lying to their parents, lying to their friends, lying to the public in Wade's case.

And he stood up on the witness stand in the trial in 2005 and said, Michael never touched me.

And he was defense witness number one.

And he was a very big part of why Jackson was acquitted.

And now, eight years later, after Jackson's death, he has a child of his own.

And leaving Neverland, my documentary...

tells this story that he has his own child, and he realizes as the child is growing up, the little boy, that the kind of things that Jackson was doing to him, he imagined his own son being involved, and he was just like, geez, that's wrong.

That's messed up, and I have to... So he found himself kind of falling apart around the issue of the sexual relationship he'd had with Jackson, and that's what eventually...

prompted him to come out, you know, which he did in 2013.

And James Safechuck had a kind of similar trajectory, also had a kid.

Yeah, there are different groups of victims.

They all have a kind of different complexion.

I don't know the latest crop, the latest, the last five, this Cassio family.

I don't know them.

I haven't spoken to them.

I can't vouch for them.