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Dan Reed

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
207 total appearances

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Morning Wire
How Should We Think About Michael Jackson?

I, you know, I'm a journalist, I'm skeptical.

Morning Wire
How Should We Think About Michael Jackson?

That's my default.

Morning Wire
How Should We Think About Michael Jackson?

I don't just go around believing whoever.

Morning Wire
How Should We Think About Michael Jackson?

You know, it took quite a while for me to be convinced that James and Wade were telling the truth.

Morning Wire
How Should We Think About Michael Jackson?

It's available everywhere in the world except the United States.

Morning Wire
How Should We Think About Michael Jackson?

And the reason for that is that the Jack in 1992, so we're going rewind back to 1992, HBO signed a contract with the Jackson Company to record a Jackson concert in Budapest in Hungary.

Morning Wire
How Should We Think About Michael Jackson?

I believe it was somewhere in Europe.

Morning Wire
How Should We Think About Michael Jackson?

And that concert contract included what they call a non-disparagement clause.

Morning Wire
How Should We Think About Michael Jackson?

So disparagement, and it's what's important, it's a legal term, and what's important to remember is that truth is no defense.

Morning Wire
How Should We Think About Michael Jackson?

So you say something bad about someone, even if it's true, then you are gonna be falling foul of that non-disparagement clause.

Morning Wire
How Should We Think About Michael Jackson?

And so the estate argued that HBO, which signed a concert contract in 1992, was forever bound by this non-disparagement clause that related specifically to the concert in 1992, which is bull , right?

Morning Wire
How Should We Think About Michael Jackson?

But somehow they made it stick and they, you know, HBO felt that they had to reach an amicable settlement with the estate and that involved taking, after six years, taking my film down.

Morning Wire
How Should We Think About Michael Jackson?

But, I mean, you know, I always have to add nothing, none of the content of the film or the claims it makes have been challenged in any way.

Morning Wire
How Should We Think About Michael Jackson?

Not really.

Morning Wire
How Should We Think About Michael Jackson?

You know, Leaving Neverland is a four-hour documentary.

Morning Wire
How Should We Think About Michael Jackson?

It's the story of basically four people, Wade James and their mothers.

Morning Wire
How Should We Think About Michael Jackson?

And it's a difficult watch.

Morning Wire
How Should We Think About Michael Jackson?

For six years, it was available on HBO, which is behind a paywall, right?

Morning Wire
How Should We Think About Michael Jackson?

So not everyone has watched this film.

Morning Wire
How Should We Think About Michael Jackson?

I'm pretty sure that, you know, everyone who's watched, who took the time to sit down and watch my documentary, Leaving Neverland, is probably quite convinced that he was not a great guy and that probably something really fishy was going on with these kids.