Dan Savage

I didn't know that about him. I didn't know that he thought about that issue so little. I didn't know that he was the type of person who would think, punching down in any way would be funny. It is an illumination of who you are on the inside, the words that come out of your mouth.

I didn't know that about him. I didn't know that he thought about that issue so little. I didn't know that he was the type of person who would think, punching down in any way would be funny. It is an illumination of who you are on the inside, the words that come out of your mouth.

And so that is very, when you have a partner, like I imagine Jesse could be in this, that is constantly illuminating something about himself in front of other people, it can be humiliating to the partner because by association, it feels like it's illuminating something about Jesse, which is that she's partnered with this person

And so that is very, when you have a partner, like I imagine Jesse could be in this, that is constantly illuminating something about himself in front of other people, it can be humiliating to the partner because by association, it feels like it's illuminating something about Jesse, which is that she's partnered with this person

Yeah.

Yeah.

what's the quality under it? Like what if the 10%, but that we can't ever figure out why am I triggered right now when I wasn't last week? It could be that there's like an energy of vibration in the exact same words that suddenly feel critical, which makes me think about humor in general. Humor, the word comes from humble, right? Really?

what's the quality under it? Like what if the 10%, but that we can't ever figure out why am I triggered right now when I wasn't last week? It could be that there's like an energy of vibration in the exact same words that suddenly feel critical, which makes me think about humor in general. Humor, the word comes from humble, right? Really?

Humor is a place where people go to indifferent with different intentions. One of the reasons I love Tig Notaro, who's of course one of our dear friends, is that if you watch, I don't think there's anybody funnier than Tig and her standups. And if you watch her standups from beginning to end, there is never a punchdown.

Humor is a place where people go to indifferent with different intentions. One of the reasons I love Tig Notaro, who's of course one of our dear friends, is that if you watch, I don't think there's anybody funnier than Tig and her standups. And if you watch her standups from beginning to end, there is never a punchdown.

Not a single one of her jokes takes a victim, except every once in a while when it's her. Herself, yeah. Which she doesn't even do that in a punishing way. And so it's this very high level of humor

Not a single one of her jokes takes a victim, except every once in a while when it's her. Herself, yeah. Which she doesn't even do that in a punishing way. And so it's this very high level of humor

that now we all know we can watch another comedian is that humor yes it's humor humor and it's such a different quality it's biting it's not humble there's kind of like a nastiness in it that makes us laugh in a way that doesn't feel quite as good as you do laughing with Tig Notaro.

that now we all know we can watch another comedian is that humor yes it's humor humor and it's such a different quality it's biting it's not humble there's kind of like a nastiness in it that makes us laugh in a way that doesn't feel quite as good as you do laughing with Tig Notaro.

Let's hear from Rachel.

Let's hear from Rachel.

Okay. So Rachel just asked the question that I might swirl around the most. I think this is so fascinating and being a person who is in this world that thinks of themselves as an artist and a writer and has a million writer artist friends and I have had so many fascinating conversations about this. And I feel like I could talk about it a million different ways on a million different days.

Okay. So Rachel just asked the question that I might swirl around the most. I think this is so fascinating and being a person who is in this world that thinks of themselves as an artist and a writer and has a million writer artist friends and I have had so many fascinating conversations about this. And I feel like I could talk about it a million different ways on a million different days.

But I'd like to address the specific thing that Rachel talks about, which is, is the anxiety fueling the art in a way that when peace comes, the art suffers? When the artist stops suffering as much, does the art suffer? And does the artist need to suffer to create good art? And why do people who naturally suffer become artists or vice versa? It's just like she said, the chicken and an egg thing.

But I'd like to address the specific thing that Rachel talks about, which is, is the anxiety fueling the art in a way that when peace comes, the art suffers? When the artist stops suffering as much, does the art suffer? And does the artist need to suffer to create good art? And why do people who naturally suffer become artists or vice versa? It's just like she said, the chicken and an egg thing.