Dan Schaubel

Very good.

And are those usually like marketing?

And you know that it's a volatile business.

It's hard to predict your annual speaking income.

That's why you need multiple streams of income if you want to be a speaker.

But there are outliers.

There's, you know, people like Mel Robbins, Matt Mayberry, who I'm friends with, who will speak like way over a hundred times a year, Simon Sinek.

So that's a little bit more predictable that they'll hit certain numbers.

No, that's your publisher.

Well, I was curious.

Hachette.

Hachette.

And it's been great.

Honestly, the relationship's been great.

And

This is a book on how to forge more human connections and not rely on technology as a crutch.

We're always, especially for introverts, a lot of your audience, I'm an introvert too, and I've used technology not as a barrier, but as a path and a bridge to more human connection.

In the early part of my career, Nathan, I connected with so many different people virtually, and that made it easier for me to meet them in person because I already had that first digital handshake

and a place where it felt kind of unique and natural to me.

No, I closed a great research deal on LinkedIn though.