Dan Shepard

I accept that.

I think that's a really good breakdown of the political parties.

What I think is they form those identities when those worldviews were very, very pertinent.

I think they're vestigial at this point.

I think that

In the 70s, law and order was a big fucking issue.

I mean, the homicide rate, what was happening in New York, every newspaper, like you had a huge crime epidemic that has just steadily fallen and fallen and fallen.

This place has gotten safer and safer and safer.

And the logic behind the worldview is kind of eroding.

And I would argue on the left as well.

In 1960, there were a ton of oppressed people.

Gay people could not get married.

There was redlining.

There were real issues.

And we've made great progress.

It's not done.

I understand there's still racism, but you'd be insane to pretend it hasn't improved dramatically.

So I'm wondering, as I see the driving force erode from the identity of both of these parties that were formed in different times that don't feel as relevant anymore—

I'm noticing more and more our battles are becoming more and more hypothetical.

When I see what the fights that are raging right now, it's not even something that's happened.