Dan Shepard

It's something that could happen because we don't really even have those issues in the same way we did when these parties were formed and the ideology was cemented.

What do you think of that as a theory?

Quickly, he's cracking down with this hypothetical notion that these illegal immigrants are creating lots of crimes.

There's no data for that.

In fact, there's data in the opposite direction.

So it's a hypothetical fear of what these people are going to do.

Yeah, that might be fair.

I take that as an explanation.

And my frustration with that whole thing is like, and I could be Ryan and pull everyone, but what feels very obvious was,

Everyone kind of wanted them to stop letting 250,000 people a month in.

And everyone didn't want them to kick everyone out that's already here.

And there's no option for us.

Trump could have stopped at sealing the border.

I don't think it's a party of the oppressed.

I think it's a party dedicated to protecting the oppressed.

Yeah, yeah.

There's no cohesion.

That's why I don't think you can look at issues because they keep flopping you.

Okay, On Abundance, which has been out for a year now.

I loved, I was reading something out of there.