Dan Shepard

This was a year ago, probably when it came out.

You made this really kind of elegant and efficient argument that in my opinion is really necessary, which is this kind of move to just

Clinch down, scale back, and consumerism.

And just, again, the lack of reality of that position and why we need to—and I'm probably—I can see by your— I'm trying to—I'm thinking through the version of this.

Yeah, you're trying to remember.

Maybe I've fucked it all up.

But I just thought you were very frank about how we need to get ourselves out of these issues.

And I think abundance is weirdly a bad word for some group inside of certain—

leanings that's why i loved bill gates's book on the environment he's like look we have to develop it's the fastest way to education and low infant mortality rate like we just have to do that and we got to figure out how to do it you took kind of a radical view of how to help us handle housing a lot of different issues and it's kind of gotten some steam so just what's the kind of main theme you can't have curiosity without some conflict

Or that they've got the best housing story in America, in Dallas.

Okay, so the last thing I want to ask you about is something that's burbling up right now, and this will be my complaint of this state.

They have gotten enough votes.

It seems that they're going to put this billionaire net worth tax on the ballot.

So this will tax all billionaires 5% of all their assets.

We just ran this experiment.

This to me is so short-sighted and so lacks pragmatism, which is we did a millionaire's tax on housing, right?

We defined a certain echelon of houses that you'd pay an extra amount of tax on in hopes of getting more tax revenue.

And all it succeeded in doing was killing velocity of those home sales.

We're never resetting the tax base.

We've lost way more money by trying to get that extra bit of money.