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Dan Shipper

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The Neuron: AI Explained
How to Be "Agent Native" in 2026 w/ Every CEO Dan Shipper

And yeah, what I decided was it would be really cool to release it for free so anyone can do it without even logging in, log in unnecessary and open source.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How to Be "Agent Native" in 2026 w/ Every CEO Dan Shipper

And so we launched it and it went viral and people loved it.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How to Be "Agent Native" in 2026 w/ Every CEO Dan Shipper

And there was like, I don't know, four or 5,000 documents created in the first day or two.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How to Be "Agent Native" in 2026 w/ Every CEO Dan Shipper

And it was really cool.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How to Be "Agent Native" in 2026 w/ Every CEO Dan Shipper

Um, and I vibe coded it.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How to Be "Agent Native" in 2026 w/ Every CEO Dan Shipper

And so there were a lot of, there were a lot of problems with it.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How to Be "Agent Native" in 2026 w/ Every CEO Dan Shipper

Say more, say more.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How to Be "Agent Native" in 2026 w/ Every CEO Dan Shipper

Like what are we, what are we talking about here?

The Neuron: AI Explained
How to Be "Agent Native" in 2026 w/ Every CEO Dan Shipper

So collaborative documents are, um,

The Neuron: AI Explained
How to Be "Agent Native" in 2026 w/ Every CEO Dan Shipper

They're effectively a solved problem.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How to Be "Agent Native" in 2026 w/ Every CEO Dan Shipper

There's a couple of open source, well-known open source libraries that make doing collaborative documents fairly easy, or it can be fairly easy.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How to Be "Agent Native" in 2026 w/ Every CEO Dan Shipper

And so I obviously, like, I knew about those things, and I asked Codex to use their, the stack I use is YJS and Hocus Pocus.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How to Be "Agent Native" in 2026 w/ Every CEO Dan Shipper

YJS is this, like, underlying, like, library for collaborative documents, and Hocus Pocus is, like, a wrapper around it.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How to Be "Agent Native" in 2026 w/ Every CEO Dan Shipper

And I asked it to use that, and it did, and it was working, and what...

The Neuron: AI Explained
How to Be "Agent Native" in 2026 w/ Every CEO Dan Shipper

happened was as it as it was working it hadn't really read all of the like yjs hocus pocus best practices um

The Neuron: AI Explained
How to Be "Agent Native" in 2026 w/ Every CEO Dan Shipper

And there are a couple things you need to do at the very start of your project and a couple ways of thinking about how data should flow and who gets to write data when, for example.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How to Be "Agent Native" in 2026 w/ Every CEO Dan Shipper

Because it gets very complicated when you have someone typing over here and someone typing over here and an agent over here.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How to Be "Agent Native" in 2026 w/ Every CEO Dan Shipper

And you're trying to create a unified, always up-to-date version of the document.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How to Be "Agent Native" in 2026 w/ Every CEO Dan Shipper

You have to be pretty careful about how you set that up so that no one gets confused.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How to Be "Agent Native" in 2026 w/ Every CEO Dan Shipper

Right.