Dan Shipper

It's like you take cloud code and you put some nice buttons on top of it so that you're interacting with a UI that feels familiar, but when you...

when you press the button it sends a prompt to the agent and the agent gets the work done as opposed to like running the recipe to get the work done and there's a lot of really interesting effects of that um in particular uh the the the interesting thing about about agent native software is

Anything a user can do, the agent can do.

If you can push a button that prompts the agent, the agent is going to have to be able to do anything in the app, and that's super powerful.

Another thing is that it creates this flexible way of working where the programmers don't necessarily know all the things it's going to do when they release it.

It's going to do things they don't expect.

So I think Cloud Code is like the canonical agent native.

application.

It's an agent.

It sits on your computer.

It has access to everything on your computer, so anything on your computer you can do.

And it works in this way, in this flexible way, where it can run any bash command on your computer.

So people were using it for code, which is the thing that it was intended for, but then they started using it for everything.

It's like, organize my files, or plan my schedule, or whatever.

And they're like, oh my god, this is so cool.

And then they made co-work.

And so it creates this much more flexible model of software that it doesn't mean that traditional software doesn't work anymore.

I think the whole SaaS is dead thing is such bullshit.

But there is this new class of software that

I think is really powerful.