Dan Shipper

And then they often have one or two people who are spending some, some part of their day on it, helping them with, you know, some of the big, difficult, more architect tasks.

Yeah.

Um, there's a new way of building software.

I've been calling it, um, building software that's agent native and it implies a new architecture for how your software works.

Um, and the way that you can think about it is normally in software, um,

Any piece of software is like a recipe.

It has a set of steps for how it works, and those steps are known beforehand by the programmers.

In this new version of software, instead of the whole thing being written out beforehand, it's essentially cloud code in a trench coat.

It's like you take cloud code and you put some nice buttons on top of it so that you're interacting with a UI that feels familiar, but when you...

when you press the button it sends a prompt to the agent and the agent gets the work done as opposed to like running the recipe to get the work done and there's a lot of really interesting effects of that um in particular uh the the the interesting thing about about agent native software is

Anything a user can do, the agent can do.

If you can push a button that prompts the agent, the agent is going to have to be able to do anything in the app, and that's super powerful.

Another thing is that it creates this flexible way of working where the programmers don't necessarily know all the things it's going to do when they release it.

It's going to do things they don't expect.

So I think Cloud Code is like the canonical agent native.

application.

It's an agent.

It sits on your computer.

It has access to everything on your computer, so anything on your computer you can do.

And it works in this way, in this flexible way, where it can run any bash command on your computer.