Dan Wiederer

Thank you, Dan.

I'll do the one on Caleb first because it was a moment that we've talked about here on the podcast after the Rams loss at Soldier Field.

And Ben Johnson gave his postgame press conference and then walked out.

And as he was walking out of that room, coming from the locker room was Caleb Williams.

And they stopped probably for no more than five seconds and just had a moment, right?

They hugged each other in the hallway there.

And it was clear that it was...

Kind of a profound moment of gratitude between both of those guys for where they had come from and where they had gotten to.

And so I had a chance to push Ben on that a little bit today.

Not push, but, you know, just ask him a little bit more about that particular moment and kind of what it was like for him in that moment, because it did feel like a sense of thank you going both ways between those two men.

I don't know if you could pick up via the audio the emotion that Ben was expressing in that in that bite, because he looked like there was a little bit a little bit of misty eyed, right?

Not like tearing up or anything, but just kind of feeling a sense of, I guess, maybe accomplishment doesn't sound right.

But just the fact that that connection was forged last year.

And again, like you and I talked about how it wasn't.

very steady in the early going of training camp.

And the exercise that Ben referenced there, as he said a few weeks ago, they went back as a coaching staff as part of their self-scouting process and threw on the film from Family Fest last August, August 3rd in Soldier Field.

And he said the two newcomers of the coaching staff, running backs coach Eric Studesville and analyst Will Long, turned around at one point and said, how did you guys win any games last year?

Right.

Because that's how clunky that early August film was.

Obviously, in hindsight, the bears know where they got to.