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Dana El-Kurd

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Appearances Over Time

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Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 225

And then after the 4th of July shooting, someone messaged, quote, please delete signal chats, chats still on phone, even if removed from groups, unquote.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 225

According to support committee notes, some signal messages were recovered from phones using Apple's internal notification system.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 225

So even though signal had been removed, incoming messages were preserved in the internal memory on the phone.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 225

Outgoing messages were not preserved because there's no notification system for outgoing messages.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 225

And you can set your settings on signal to not display the message in notifications.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 225

And it seems like that was not the case for these messages that were taken from defendant's phones.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 225

And this is a known, I mean, just the fact that having notifications on with Signal is a privacy issue has been known for a while, but yeah.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 225

Two defendants, Liz Sojo and Savannah Batten, were neither in planning chats nor attended the gear check.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 225

Uh-huh.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 225

But all the defendants who attended the protest did carpool together in two vehicles and brought a total of 11 firearms, body armor, individual first aid kits, and all these were presented as government exhibits.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 225

I'm going to quote the Department of Justice right up about this case.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 225

Unquote.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 225

And if someone is talking about, for example, suppressive fire, that's not something that...

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 225

is really relevant to a defensive shooting in a legal situation.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 225

That's like a combat thing.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 225

Like very rarely do self-defense shootings involve suppressing fire.