Dana El-Kurd

I just, you have to be very, very careful.

Yeah.

And this is like a judgment thing.

Like if you hear people talking about guns who are going to be bringing firearms to a protest or another event, and they are talking in a way that sounds as if they are like planning or eager to shoot it out with guns,

the police or right wing with anyone.

That's a thing to be very wary of.

That's a real warning sign.

Yeah, that's a real red flag.

Yeah, that's a real red flag.

The defense argued that when Song shot at the officer, Song was using suppressive fire, claiming that Song aimed for the ground, and the officer was perhaps struck by a ricochet.

We don't know if that is true.

No.

And there really is no legal precedent for arguing suppressive fire in this way.

In a self-defense shooting, no.

If you're shooting in the direction of someone... Yeah.

they absolutely can start shooting back, even if the fire is intended as being quote-unquote suppressive, right?

There's really no legal precedent for arguing in this way.

And from a legal standpoint, if you were saying, I had to shoot at someone in immediate self-defense...

And then you said, but I wasn't actually aiming at them.

I was just trying to suppress them that immediately.