Dana El-Kurd

Like, I mean, I don't think they were ever going to be able to argue self-defense because this was a cop.

But if this had not been if this had been like, you know, a right wing counter protester or something, the fact that you're saying that you were like shooting to try not to hit them is something that can get you in trouble.

That's an extremely dangerous thing from a legal standpoint to talk about.

Especially if you're the one like initiating the use of deadly force.

Yes.

If you have.

Now, if they if a group of people start shooting at you and you are firing and you're just trying to keep whatever that you're going to say because they've started shooting at you.

But like this person started shooting like just from a legal standpoint, this is a nightmare for the defense.

Yeah.

From the jump.

Yeah.

Some of the defendants attended a daytime protest outside of this facility earlier on July 4th, after which they then reported back to fellow defendants details regarding the facility's security prior to this nighttime action.

I think it's time for a quick break, and then we'll return to discuss the Antifa terrorism cell aspect of this case.

Great.

Well, I hate all of this so far, Garrison.

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I guess we're back.

So let's talk about quote unquote Antifa.

The government argued that the defendants were members of a quote unquote North Texas Antifa cell.

The indictment describes Antifa as a quote, militant enterprise made up of networks of individuals and small groups primarily ascribing to a revolutionary anarchist