Dana Taylor

Well, you recently spoke with Secretary of Health and Human Services, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

about vaccines.

What did he tell you?

You spoke with several moms for this story.

Tell us about Brandy Bright and April Leconte.

And then I know one of them talked to you about the word crunchy and how they define it or look at it.

What drove moms like Brandy and April to seek medical answers outside of the doctor's office?

How representative is this kind of narrative within the broader movement?

Well, you describe these moms as being steeped in a, quote, parallel online world of science and pseudoscience.

What does that ecosystem look like and why is it so effective at pulling people in?

A big part of your reporting focuses on the link between Crunchy Moms and RFK Jr.

's Make America Healthy Again movement.

The moms you spoke with see him as someone who is double checking the system.

How central are they to Maha's rise and what political influence do they actually have?

You also spoke with Dr. Jonathan Howard, a neurologist who's been battling vaccine misinformation for years.

He had a very different perspective, especially on herd immunity.

Let's give a listen to that.

When you hear warnings like that, how concerned are public health officials about the scale and the speed at which these anti-vaccine beliefs are spreading?

Some of the mothers told you they felt dismissed or shamed by doctors and that poor communication pushed them further into distrust.

How much of this movement is rooted in misinformation and how much is about people feeling unheard by the medical system?