Daniel Ek

And it's always been these things.

And like you said, you know, you kind of look back at yourself a few years back when you started off and say, wow, how did I do this?

And you're amazed at that.

I can feel the same way about young Daniel.

I can feel myself about the young Daniel that worked every weekend and

you know, nonstop, 24-7, sacrificed so many things, so many summers, so many other things.

You know, I had a blast doing so, but I didn't have a normal upbringing just because I was so obsessed about learning, so obsessed about making it.

And it put me in the position of where I am today.

And I actually feel like I owe that guy to keep pushing myself, right?

Because there's so many things, there's so many demands of my time, so many things that tells me to sort of downshift gear into an easier gear because life would be a lot more comfortable that way.

This is not a comfortable thing.

Um...

I don't think too much anymore.

I used to think a lot about how other people saw me or see me.

I don't do that anymore.

So I would choose more of a self-reflective one.

And I wish only one thing on my tombstone, future one, it feels absurd talking about it, but would be that he lived.

Well, thank you so much.

And it's such a huge honor to be your first guest in this series.

Of course.