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I'm Andrew Huberman, and I'm a professor of neurobiology and ophthalmology at Stanford School of Medicine. Today, I'm excited to share the launch of a new podcast that I've helped create and produce. This new podcast is hosted by David Senra. For those of you not familiar with David Senra, he is the expert in all things greatness.
He studies greatness, and he understands it, mostly in the domain of business, but also creatives, athletes, and other world-class performers. In this new show, David sits down with the best of the best business founders and extreme winners to understand their drive, their process of creation, how they overcome failures, their lessons in leadership, and other tools for achieving success.
This first episode of the podcast is with Daniel Ek, the founder of Spotify. It's an absolutely spectacular conversation that I'm certain you'll enjoy. If you'd like to listen to future episodes of this new podcast, please be sure to subscribe to it. It's simply called David Senra, and links to it are in the show notes for this episode. Again, the podcast is called David Senra.
Episode two of David Senra will be with the founder of Dell Technologies, Michael Dell. So again, make sure to subscribe wherever you're listening now. And now, episode one of David Senra with the founder of Spotify, Daniel Ek.
So I want to consider this conversation like a continuation of the conversation we had last year in New York. It was by far the most impactful conversation I had the entire year. It is in large part the reason we're sitting down and actually recording this conversation.
And what I loved was I thought about how the advice you gave and the stories you told really fundamentally changed my approach to my work and then also like my philosophy of how I'm living my life. And because you – it's very rare. Like this year I'm going to hit over 400 biographies read for the podcast, right? And somebody asked me recently, it's like, do you ever uncover new ideas?
It's like, no, I feel like I'm telling the same story, the same personality type over and over and over again. And you'll get a new idea or a novel idea. Every once in a while, but certainly not all the time. But you shared something at the dinner that was a truly novel idea.
And then a few months later, I read this interview and I was like, oh, I'm not the only one that Daniel's advice changed the career. So I'm going to read something. There was an interview given by the CEO of Uber, who's in front of yours, Dara. And I'm going to read this excerpt, which was absolutely perfect. And he was talking about... contemplating, should I take this job or not?
Like this is a huge opportunity, but also like kind of scary. And this is tied to your idea that you should optimize for impact over happiness. I haven't heard anybody else articulate that. And so Dara says, I was reading about all the issues happening with Uber in the news, the various challenges that were coming up there.
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