Daniel Ek

Well, first off, it's incredibly kind of Dara to say that.

You know, I think about this.

I think happiness is a trailing indicator of impact.

And I think it can be – you can feel happiness in small bursts, in small moments, and you can have a lot of variance in your life.

So you can choose to have that part, which is the ups, the downs of life, et cetera.

So I'm not saying you can't have happiness, but I think truly sustained happiness comes from –

And impact is something that's deeply personal to you.

Only you can define what impact means for you.

So I think it means different things for different people.

But I do think it's a trailing indicator.

So the way, you know, I would put it in this case is, you know, what was obvious for me with someone like Adara was he was content.

He wasn't happy.

And, you know, he had gone through a phase, knowing him for a while, where he had a lot of ups and downs with Expedia and all that stuff.

And he kind of mostly figured it out.

And so he was content.

And I think that in his case, you know, where he was at his life...

It was such an obvious thing that he didn't even realize that he'd just grown content.

And so for me, you know, Uber is a very special company.

And to even be asked to be the CEO of that and the impact I knew he could have on that company just felt to me like an obvious thing.

And so...