Daniel Ek

And I'm running an internet company, like, come on.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Well, I had many of those episodes, and it always followed with enormous weight gains and hair loss.

You literally ripped your hair out.

Yeah, pretty much.

When I started, I had hair, and then two, three years later, I didn't have hair.

Yeah.

There's like old pictures of me with hair, like from the first year or something.

And then it kind of all disappeared.

Wow.

And I don't know anything.

Well, so obviously I think it has been, but obviously I can't recommend, it is an emotional rollercoaster.

You guys know this being an entrepreneur, it's not for the faint hearted.

And I think every really successful entrepreneur, in my opinion,

has had at least three near-death experiences with their company, right?

Where you just feel like, I'm not sure whether this thing is going to work, not work, whether we're going to be alive tomorrow or not.

And I kind of hate how media portrays this and sometimes how entrepreneurs, we're supposed to be sort of like, we're so big, we understood everything from day one.

It's certainly not been my journey.

Like my journey was, you know, I had a lot of luck.