Daniel Kokotajlo

Thanks for that introduction, I suppose, and thanks for having me.

Thanks for that introduction, I suppose, and thanks for having me.

Well, it's very scary and sad. I think that it does still give me nightmares sometimes. You know, I've been involved with AI and thinking about this sort of thing for a decade or so, but 2020 was with GPT-3, the moment when I was like, oh, wow, like it seems like we're actually like, it might, it's probably going to happen, you know, in my lifetime.

Well, it's very scary and sad. I think that it does still give me nightmares sometimes. You know, I've been involved with AI and thinking about this sort of thing for a decade or so, but 2020 was with GPT-3, the moment when I was like, oh, wow, like it seems like we're actually like, it might, it's probably going to happen, you know, in my lifetime.

And that was a bit of a blow to me psychologically, but I don't know, you can sort of get used to anything given enough time. And like you, the sun is shining.

And that was a bit of a blow to me psychologically, but I don't know, you can sort of get used to anything given enough time. And like you, the sun is shining.

Today, I have the great pleasure of chatting with Scott Alexander and Daniel Cocotello.

Scott is, of course, the author of the blog Slate Star Codex, Astral Codex 10 Now.

It's actually been, as you know, a big bucket list item of mine to get you on the podcast.

So this is also the first podcast you've ever done, right?

Yes.

And then Daniel is the director of the AI Futures Project.

And you have both just launched today something called AI 2027.

Yes.

So what is this?

Okay, and then Scott, how did you get involved in this project?

I've probably changed my mind towards, against, towards, against intelligence explosion, like three, four times in the conversations I've had in the lead up, in talking to you, and then trying to come up with a rebuttal or something.

Yeah.

Yeah.

OK, now let's talk about this new forecast.