Daniel Kokotajlo
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first heard Apr 2025
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And then the type of system that can do absolutely everything is probably not far off.
Perhaps we should talk about the point of agreement.
Yeah, yeah.
What's the point of agreement?
Yeah, so we wrote this blog post together, the authors of AI as a Normal Technology and AI 2027, where we talked about the things that we agree on.
And correct me if I'm misstating it, but roughly speaking,
We talk about what you might call strong AGI or like humans in the cloud, like AIs that can sort of do all the cognitive tasks or the tasks you can do at your computer as well as professional humans or as well as the best professional humans.
And I guess the headline is, I agree that AIs that aren't that powerful are still normal technologies.
And they agree that AIs that are that powerful are not normal technologies.
I would love it if you were right.
Okay.
Thank you, Daniel.
So I think that like, I've tried to spend some time thinking about like, what are the barriers?
What are the bottlenecks that could block Anthropic from succeeding in their stated plans?
And none of them really seemed that strong to me basically.
Yeah, so we can go through them bit by bit.
Like data efficiency you mentioned, it does seem like AIs currently are less data efficient than humans, but that also seems like something that companies could probably make rapid progress on if they tried.
And also separately, it may not actually be that important for automating the AI research process.
It might be that you can sort of like...
99% automate the AI research process without getting that data efficiency to human level.
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