Daniel McConnell

I mean, it's tough.

It might be scripted, but the injuries are real.

And that's a big criticism as well, because what they're saying is, is it losing its roots with its more working-class base?

You know, in terms of, if you look now, WrestleMania used to be a one-night event, it's now a two-night event, and to try and get tickets to anywhere near where you can actually see the ring...

Like you're talking thousands of dollars.

Like, I mean, like if you're looking for like the cheapest, cheapest seats, which are way, way, way back.

I mean, you're still talking a couple hundred, you know, a couple hundred dollars.

Way out of the, I suppose, probably the reach of kind of ordinary Americans.

And wrestling always traditionally was a working class sport.

It was...

the down and dirty the regions kind of the regional kind of franchises kind of then in the south in particular you know yeah but you know as i said from an irish perspective i mean there's a there's obviously a decent channel for irish talent or wannabe irish talent to get into the wwe i think people like seamus are real trailblazers in terms of there is a path there there's a path there to make an awful lot of money and there's a path there to have a very successful career

Well, let's just say his dad ultimately concluded he wouldn't have done lots of things what Vince did.

WCW, so Ted Turner who owned Turner Network.

Yes, yeah, yeah.

So there was the great Monday Night Wars, and again going back to the 1990s, the great Monday Night Wars where you had Raw for the WWF, as it was then, and Nitro, which was the WCW.

And for years, WCW were winning the battle.

And then it just slowly started to turn.

And then Turner changed and the whole infrastructure.

Ted Turner was the big believer in WCW and was continuing to fund it.

But when the corporate structure in Turner changed,