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Daniel Okrent

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374 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

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Fresh Air
Best Of: John Lithgow / Sondheim’s tumultuous life

but primarily Judy Prince, who never gave interviews, that in fact it was about revenge.

Fresh Air
Best Of: John Lithgow / Sondheim’s tumultuous life

Yeah, there are two major arcs to his life.

Fresh Air
Best Of: John Lithgow / Sondheim’s tumultuous life

One is from absolute alienation to finally near the end of his life connection.

Fresh Air
Best Of: John Lithgow / Sondheim’s tumultuous life

The other is from an ambivalence that could be crippling at times to resolution, to knowing who he was and what he was capable of doing.

Fresh Air
Best Of: John Lithgow / Sondheim’s tumultuous life

But it took 50 years for him to move from one of those poles to the next one.

Fresh Air
Best Of: John Lithgow / Sondheim’s tumultuous life

I think that's a sentence that says a great deal about his entire career and his entire life, that through his music and his lyrics, he was able to express things that he could not, for various forms of inhibition, express otherwise.

Fresh Air
Best Of: John Lithgow / Sondheim’s tumultuous life

It was where, if it's not autobiographical, obviously he's not slitting throats.

Fresh Air
Best Of: John Lithgow / Sondheim’s tumultuous life

Obviously, you know, he's not

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Best Of: John Lithgow / Sondheim’s tumultuous life

Georges Seurat, obviously he's not in the woods and into the woods, but the feelings expressed in those shows all come from inside of him, I think, very, very clearly.

Fresh Air
Best Of: John Lithgow / Sondheim’s tumultuous life

Absolutely.

Fresh Air
Best Of: John Lithgow / Sondheim’s tumultuous life

And it's the inhibitions that keep us from expressing those feelings.

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Best Of: John Lithgow / Sondheim’s tumultuous life

No.

Fresh Air
Best Of: John Lithgow / Sondheim’s tumultuous life

And socially, it's a very good thing to do.

Fresh Air
Best Of: John Lithgow / Sondheim’s tumultuous life

And sometimes when he was in a bad mood, he would let them out socially.

Fresh Air
Best Of: John Lithgow / Sondheim’s tumultuous life

But mostly it came through in his songs.

Fresh Air
Best Of: John Lithgow / Sondheim’s tumultuous life

And one of the things that's very important to know about Sondheim that enabled him to bring them out in his songs, those feelings, were the disinhibiting effects of alcohol and drugs.

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Best Of: John Lithgow / Sondheim’s tumultuous life

And alcohol particularly was something that he consumed in great quantities.

Fresh Air
Best Of: John Lithgow / Sondheim’s tumultuous life

His collaborators said, you know, it didn't impair his ability to work, but he would drink all day long.

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Best Of: John Lithgow / Sondheim’s tumultuous life

Marijuana, cocaine for a period, but mostly alcohol, great, great quantities of alcohol.

Fresh Air
Best Of: John Lithgow / Sondheim’s tumultuous life

The cabaret performer Michael Feinstein reported about having his assistant call Sondheim,