Daniel Robbins

And then a lot of issues came about because it was first.

I didn't anticipate that.

And so I love your idea of you build something that you use.

And then if you use it, then you know other people will definitely have the same problem and use it too.

So now, okay, so you built it.

I love what you're saying around.

You can create an MVP now without any knowledge, which is insane.

Like it's insanity how the times we're living in.

So you build this app, you get this data, you put it together.

And then how do you actually get traction?

Because I think that's the other piece that people are like, okay, I build something, but it's not easy to get significant traction.

That's kind of how we got started.

I think you and I, because I was like, hey, I got this email and it says this one thing.

And you're like, oh, wow.

OK, let me fix that.

And you're like, OK, fixed.

But you bring up something really interesting, many things.

Something I want to go back to, because this happened to me too, is originally I thought I was going to be serving more of a certain B2C customer.

But when I found out that I can actually help businesses who are serving those people, it actually allowed me to lead gen at basically almost a free rate because they were referring me to other people, referring me to other people.

Also, I barely had to do any sales because I knew they needed it.