Danielle Jablanski

And you can't bring running shoes into New Zealand because of the, you know, introducing organisms and things into the environment that would otherwise cripple parts of their ecosystem.

And I was like...

I knew about that coming back into the U.S., right?

I couldn't bring, you know, a coconut from the Bahamas or whatever, but I'd never seen it going the other way and how serious and adamant they were about it.

And I was like, wow, I mean, I knew that this mattered, but.

I'm just curious what we can learn for safety and security from transnational crime that we can apply to cybersecurity.

Correct.

Yeah.

What do you think is the next ubiquitous thing?

So for farming agriculture, when I looked into it, it was drones.

Like drones had become small and affordable and so more could use them for more applications.

What do you think that next thing is?

Yeah.

But like if that's all computerized with data, et cetera, what do I need?

What system do I need to game to alter that product in a way that I can impact that supply chain?

And is that the next supply chain attack in food and ag?

Is that a big one?

I've done some incident response plans for food warehouses, but I would love to be part of business continuity into disaster planning for some of these big brands like

Not on the crime space, like the Tylenol issues, right, where they had to then put the safety caps on.

But I'm curious, like I would love to be part of some of the systems thinking around, wow, we didn't think about this criticality or vulnerability.