Danielle Jablanski

But yeah, that's the one that like pops into my head is this like beautiful memory of just this huge table and red wine and delicious fresh seafood.

No, but I did go when, do you remember when they made you separate your laptop?

I did fly through Turkey during that craze where you had to send your laptop to a separate counter.

It was like a very short blip.

I forget what year it was.

Yeah.

It was a very short time that they did this.

I forget what it was, but it was a gut reaction to some incident.

I'll have to look it up and send it to you.

Yeah.

It was chaos in the airport, though.

So it was like you had to literally hand deliver your computer to another table in the security line.

Yeah.

All of the analogies we make.

My name is Daniel Swlansky.

I normally go by DJ or Jabs.

And I currently lead the OT cybersecurity consulting practice at an engineering firm called STV.

STV is kind of in the EPC world, which is engineering, procurement and construction.

But we also do a lot of architecture and design.

So sometimes we say EPA or...