Danielle Jablanski

And we build a lot of rail infrastructure, utilities, and we do advisory services around that.

And before that, I spent a year doing OT strategy at CISA.

And I was also at Nozomi Networks for a couple of years.

And I was a research analyst that looked at intrusion detection systems in OT.

That's kind of how I cut my teeth.

And before that, like we mentioned, I did some nuclear policy work coming out of Stanford University and other kind of nonprofit organizations that I worked with, Chatham House and some of the organizations.

like Carnegie, that kind of like funded philanthropy world around nuclear weapons when I came out of school.

So that's my background in a nutshell.

See, there's another one in a nutshell.

Or you're sending links to me quickly.

I have a 10-month old.

You know, I'll still cry, okay?

And I love how you always say systems of systems thinkers, because I didn't think about that until I met more engineers.

And I actually joke with my partner.

I said, if I could go back, if we had won the lottery, I used to say that I would go back and get a Ph.D.

in like anthropology.

And now I say I would go back and do material science.

because it blows my mind and it's this like extension of engineering and physics that we work with in OT but it never really dawned on me until I was later into my career like I want to know what melts this I want to know because we talk about all these cyber physical scenarios and real world outcomes and cascading consequences and all this analysis that we do but I never heard somebody frame it until you as like if you're in this field and you like it and you're thriving you're a systems thinker and I was like wow like I always thought I was an analyst at heart but you're right it's different I'm not just an analyst like numbers that much right like I'm not just an analyst for the

I love when you put that out there.

That blew my mind.