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Danielle Kurtzleben

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The NPR Politics Podcast
Supreme Court rules most of Trump’s tariffs are illegal

The government had been arguing that there's language in IEPA that IEPA says the president can regulate and later that the law says importation so that together he gets to regulate importation.

The NPR Politics Podcast
Supreme Court rules most of Trump’s tariffs are illegal

So they in the same sentence.

The NPR Politics Podcast
Supreme Court rules most of Trump’s tariffs are illegal

They are, but they're separated by 16 words in between.

The NPR Politics Podcast
Supreme Court rules most of Trump’s tariffs are illegal

But this was the government's rationale.

The NPR Politics Podcast
Supreme Court rules most of Trump’s tariffs are illegal

And so they said, look, these tariffs aren't a tax.

The NPR Politics Podcast
Supreme Court rules most of Trump’s tariffs are illegal

They're regulation.

The NPR Politics Podcast
Supreme Court rules most of Trump’s tariffs are illegal

They're to regulate importation.

The NPR Politics Podcast
Supreme Court rules most of Trump’s tariffs are illegal

Therefore, we can use them.

The NPR Politics Podcast
Supreme Court rules most of Trump’s tariffs are illegal

And the Supreme Court said, no, no, no.

The NPR Politics Podcast
Supreme Court rules most of Trump’s tariffs are illegal

And in the varying opinions, different justices talked about different reasons why this doesn't work.

The NPR Politics Podcast
Supreme Court rules most of Trump’s tariffs are illegal

But in one of the opinions, I believe, by the chief justice, it said, look, the SEC gets to regulate all sorts of stuff.

The NPR Politics Podcast
Supreme Court rules most of Trump’s tariffs are illegal

That doesn't mean we allow the SEC to impose taxes.

The NPR Politics Podcast
Supreme Court rules most of Trump’s tariffs are illegal

So regulate doesn't generally mean you get to tax people.

The NPR Politics Podcast
Supreme Court rules most of Trump’s tariffs are illegal

Oh, he's mad.

The NPR Politics Podcast
Supreme Court rules most of Trump’s tariffs are illegal

That's the long and short of it.

The NPR Politics Podcast
Supreme Court rules most of Trump’s tariffs are illegal

I mean, he got up there.

The NPR Politics Podcast
Supreme Court rules most of Trump’s tariffs are illegal

He was flanked by Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick, the Trade Representative Jameson Greer, and Solicitor General John Sauer.

The NPR Politics Podcast
Supreme Court rules most of Trump’s tariffs are illegal

And

The NPR Politics Podcast
Supreme Court rules most of Trump’s tariffs are illegal

Those guys mostly didn't say anything.

The NPR Politics Podcast
Supreme Court rules most of Trump’s tariffs are illegal

They just stood there and looked serious while Trump just got really upset about this decision.