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Danielle Kurtzleben

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The NPR Politics Podcast
Supreme Court rules most of Trump’s tariffs are illegal

He not only said he's disappointed in this decision, but he got personal with the justices, specifically saying that Justices Gorsuch and Barrett, who are two justices he appointed and who ruled against the tariffs –

The NPR Politics Podcast
Supreme Court rules most of Trump’s tariffs are illegal

He was upset because he doesn't think they are sufficiently loyal to him.

The NPR Politics Podcast
Supreme Court rules most of Trump’s tariffs are illegal

Well, he's saying he's going to use laws other than IEPA to replace these tariffs, laws that he and his team think will withstand any sort of potential legal challenge.

The NPR Politics Podcast
Supreme Court rules most of Trump’s tariffs are illegal

So already we have heard and seen Trump use Section 232 is the shorthand for it.

The NPR Politics Podcast
Supreme Court rules most of Trump’s tariffs are illegal

Tariffs that are justified by saying that they are for national security.

The NPR Politics Podcast
Supreme Court rules most of Trump’s tariffs are illegal

And he has Section 232 tariffs in place, and those are not going away.

The NPR Politics Podcast
Supreme Court rules most of Trump’s tariffs are illegal

That's tariffs on things like steel and aluminum, automobiles and auto parts, that sort of thing.

The NPR Politics Podcast
Supreme Court rules most of Trump’s tariffs are illegal

Those are sticking around.

The NPR Politics Podcast
Supreme Court rules most of Trump’s tariffs are illegal

But besides that, he said today that he is going to impose a 10 percent global tariff on

The NPR Politics Podcast
Supreme Court rules most of Trump’s tariffs are illegal

using a law called Section 122.

The NPR Politics Podcast
Supreme Court rules most of Trump’s tariffs are illegal

There's a whole mess of laws with three-digit numbers that he can use.

The NPR Politics Podcast
Supreme Court rules most of Trump’s tariffs are illegal

That's one that he is using.

The NPR Politics Podcast
Supreme Court rules most of Trump’s tariffs are illegal

But the difference between those and AIPA is that those laws come with limitations on the president's power.

The NPR Politics Podcast
Supreme Court rules most of Trump’s tariffs are illegal

So these don't give him exactly the same power that he had before, but they're something, and he said he's willing to use them.

The NPR Politics Podcast
Supreme Court rules most of Trump’s tariffs are illegal

And really, to drill down into what Ashley is saying, it is kind of remarkable that he is doubling down on tariffs so much.

The NPR Politics Podcast
Supreme Court rules most of Trump’s tariffs are illegal

I mean, on the one hand, yes, it makes total sense why he loves tariffs.

The NPR Politics Podcast
Supreme Court rules most of Trump’s tariffs are illegal

He loves the negotiations.

The NPR Politics Podcast
Supreme Court rules most of Trump’s tariffs are illegal

He loves being able to use the tariffs to twist other countries' arms.

The NPR Politics Podcast
Supreme Court rules most of Trump’s tariffs are illegal

He has talked about that so much.

The NPR Politics Podcast
Supreme Court rules most of Trump’s tariffs are illegal

He loves the power.