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Danny Jenkins

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CISO Series Podcast
There's Nothing an LLM Can Screw Up That the Cloud Didn't Do First

We should be saying, why does this need this permission?

CISO Series Podcast
There's Nothing an LLM Can Screw Up That the Cloud Didn't Do First

Why does it need access to these files?

CISO Series Podcast
There's Nothing an LLM Can Screw Up That the Cloud Didn't Do First

Why does it need access to the internet?

CISO Series Podcast
There's Nothing an LLM Can Screw Up That the Cloud Didn't Do First

What does it need access to on the internet?

CISO Series Podcast
There's Nothing an LLM Can Screw Up That the Cloud Didn't Do First

So that's step one.

CISO Series Podcast
There's Nothing an LLM Can Screw Up That the Cloud Didn't Do First

And then the second step is checking what you have given access to and just reviewing it again.

CISO Series Podcast
There's Nothing an LLM Can Screw Up That the Cloud Didn't Do First

periodically to say, is there still a valid reason for this agent to get access?

CISO Series Podcast
There's Nothing an LLM Can Screw Up That the Cloud Didn't Do First

Part of the problem with agents as well is there's no accountability.

CISO Series Podcast
There's Nothing an LLM Can Screw Up That the Cloud Didn't Do First

So as a human, if I hire somebody and I bring them into my business and they do something wrong, there is a consequence for doing something wrong.

CISO Series Podcast
There's Nothing an LLM Can Screw Up That the Cloud Didn't Do First

Now, the consequence may be worse for the business than it is for the individual.

CISO Series Podcast
There's Nothing an LLM Can Screw Up That the Cloud Didn't Do First

But in most cases, if they intentionally steal data, upload something to the internet, it's

CISO Series Podcast
There's Nothing an LLM Can Screw Up That the Cloud Didn't Do First

They're going to go to jail.

CISO Series Podcast
There's Nothing an LLM Can Screw Up That the Cloud Didn't Do First

They're going to get fired, something like that.

CISO Series Podcast
There's Nothing an LLM Can Screw Up That the Cloud Didn't Do First

With agents, they can just do things without any consequence.

CISO Series Podcast
There's Nothing an LLM Can Screw Up That the Cloud Didn't Do First

So you have to almost put more constraints around it because what you have is the most.

CISO Series Podcast
There's Nothing an LLM Can Screw Up That the Cloud Didn't Do First

No, it doesn't have any conscience.

CISO Series Podcast
There's Nothing an LLM Can Screw Up That the Cloud Didn't Do First

It cannot be stopped.

CISO Series Podcast
There's Nothing an LLM Can Screw Up That the Cloud Didn't Do First

It cannot be reasoned with.

CISO Series Podcast
There's Nothing an LLM Can Screw Up That the Cloud Didn't Do First

And it will do whatever it thinks is the appropriate thing to do.

CISO Series Podcast
There's Nothing an LLM Can Screw Up That the Cloud Didn't Do First

And that could be deleting a database.