There's Nothing an LLM Can Screw Up That the Cloud Didn't Do First
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What is the significance of permission creep at machine speed?
What I love about cybersecurity.
Go. I love winning. I love it when we manage to stop something, stop a hack, or really, really annoy somebody on a server who's trying to take over a system. I just love winning.
It's time to begin the CISO Series podcast.
Welcome to the CISO Series podcast. My name is David Spark. I'm the producer of the CISO Series, and joining me as my co-host, it's Andy Ellis, the principal over at DUHA. Andy, say hello to the audience.
Good afternoon, folks, or depending on when you are in the world, good morning, good evening, or good night.
We are available at CISOseries.com, where you can find lots of our other wonderful programming. We have four other shows on our network. Why not explore and listen to some other wonderful programming?
Because this is the best program.
At this very moment, while people are listening, this is exactly what they should be listening to. Nothing else.
Yeah, only when you're done can you go listen to the other ones.
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That's right, folks. If you want to sponsor a live show, all you have to do is figure out where David wants to be.
That helps. But this was all sort of coordinated back in November of last year. But I hadn't stepped on my campus since I was 18 years old. Oh, goodness. I went to an all-boys prep school in Boston. And I think what's interesting, first of all, have you attended like a college or a high school reunion yourself, Andy? Nope. None.
None. Nope. I left and have not been back. I mean, I've been back on my college campus because it's right down the street, but I didn't do the reunions.
Well, I think what happens when you don't see people for decades, the game becomes who has fallen apart most. You know, and it's just like, wow, I didn't think that was going to happen to you kind of thing. But then there's some people who keep it together and it's great.
You know, I think what I love best about this is all the winning, David.
It goes back to the winning thing. So that becomes quite amusing. Like, well, well, you know, you were an athlete at one point. I guess things have changed. Just a little bit. Anyways, it was thrilling to see everybody, but it was just sort of a shock when you don't see people for that long. Because people change after they turn 18, I've noticed. It does happen.
Just a little bit, I hope. Just a tad. I hope that people change after they turn 18. Let's put it that way.
I would hope so. And slightly mature. Yes. All right, let's get to today's show at hand because we're not going to be talking about my reunion. If someone wants to call me or talk to me or email me about my reunion, happy to chat with them about that later. But let's not waste any more time here. It's a guest we've had on many times before. We adore him. He supports us. We support them. It is the CEO of ThreatLocker, our sponsored guest, Danny Jenkins. Danny, thank you so much for coming back.
Thank you for inviting me today.
Once again, we've got identity issues. Quote, authorization is not the same as appropriateness. A perfect guard tries to cut through the identity is the perimeter consensus. He points out that IAM, Identity Access Management, can confirm an agent was allowed to access the system, query something like a salary database, and join it with performance reviews, but it can't tell you whether it should have.
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Chapters
6 chapters
1
What is the significance of permission creep at machine speed?
0:00–5:11
2
How do we differentiate between authorization and appropriateness?
5:11–18:18
3
What challenges arise with agentic workflows versus human identities?
18:18–30:13
4
How does speed impact access governance in security?
30:13–38:38
5
What patterns do we see in cybersecurity mistakes with new technologies?
38:38–41:49
6
How can security leaders protect infrastructure amid a nascent vendor ecosystem?
41:49–44:23
Speakers
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