Danny Jenkins

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I love winning.

I love it when we manage to stop something, stop a hack, or really, really annoy somebody on a server who's trying to take over a system.

I just love winning.

Thank you for inviting me today.

So I think it's really about allowing what you need and nothing else.

And humans, obviously, they tend to collect privileges over time.

You're right.

And one of the things we often do is look at those and say, here is a privilege that hasn't been used for three years.

This shouldn't be here anymore because it's not currently being used.

The problem with agents is not that they're more or less predictable.

The problem with agents is they're much, much faster at causing chaos.

And a human, if they start stealing data or uploading data to the internet, they tend to do it quite slowly.

If they decide they're going to delete something, they tend to do it quite slowly.

And you have some kind of chance of detecting it before it becomes bad.

Agents do it very, very quickly and sometimes very wrongly.

So I think the first thing is, just like a human, you have to start off.

People have given agents more power than humans in many cases.

And if you look at some of these AI tools, they're just asking for absolutely everything out of the box.

And we shouldn't be doing that.