Danny Jones

So if the government is talking out on one side of its mouth saying, there's no God, we were engineered by aliens and the other side, we need to do this war with Iran to bring back Jesus or whatever their excuse is.

That makes no sense at all.

Is this somehow by design?

It's all by design.

Is this somehow like a crazy way to just diffuse the populace

by just creating so much chatter and so much noise that there's no way for people to become cohesive on one thing, to come together on one thing, right?

Yeah.

I think you're totally right about that, man.

Where do you think,

the mind is of Russia in all of this stuff.

You and John are both former RT contributors.

Yep, absolutely.

That probably doesn't mean that you have any kind of insider knowledge or whatever.

No, we just create content and give it to them.

Right.

They run it, yeah.

Right.

And John famously defended that amazingly on this podcast before.

We had the debate with him and this other guy, this other CIA guy, who was like, why would you, as a former CIA agent who came to protect this country, you dedicated your life to protecting the United States of America, go work for Russian state media.

And John said, they fucking put me in prison.