Danny Shaw
đ€ SpeakerAppearances Over Time
Podcast Appearances
vahvaa kÀsittelyÀ vanhista ihmistÀ hallituksen kautta. Ja se liittyi poliittisen rasistisen toimintapuoleen, josta me nyt olemme, koska se on se kontroversiaalinen osa, josta ihmiset sanovat, ettÀ se on mennyt liikaa. Ja se tuli juuri siitÀ, mitÀ tapahtui George Floydin Yhdysvalloissa? KyllÀ. Ja luuletko, ettÀ se oli oikein, ettÀ se tuli siitÀ, mitÀ tapahtui George Floydin Yhdysvalloissa? Koska se on mielenkiintoinen asia. Se oli maailmanlaajuisuus.
MielestÀni oli oikein, ettÀ poliisipolitiikkaa pitÀisi kÀsitellÀ, koska minusta asioita pysyivÀt eteenpÀin, kuten etnillisiin rikollisuuksien kÀsittelyyn ja poliisipolitiikan ja justiikin jÀrjestelmien kÀsittelyyn. Siihen pitÀisi olla rikkoja. Mutta minun huolestani siitÀ, mitÀ on kehittynyt, on se, ettÀ poliisipolitiikkaa pitÀisi kÀyttÀÀ.
and procedures and guidelines. And can I just quote from... Do. I mean, it's a complete word salad. So this is the anti-racism commitment that came out of the police race action plan that was published last year by the National Police Chiefs Council. It says, and I quote, commitment to racial equity means producing equality of policing outcomes
I can't understand what that means or what it's trying to get at. I can't begin to think how a young police constable, and most of them are in their 20s or 30s at the moment, trying to apply that commitment on the streets in a fast-moving situation, how they meant to navigate that with that in their heads, plus everything else that's going on and all the other guidance. I mean, it's dreadful. I think what it's trying to say and what it should be getting at is,
Olemme kaikki erilaisia. Olemme kaikki saaneet tilanteeseen erilaisia elÀmyskokemuksia. Jotkut ovat syntyneet rasismiin ja joitakin ovat syntyneet vaikeuksiin. Olemme saaneet erilaisia elÀmyskokemuksia. Olemme kaikki saaneet erilaisia kokemuksia ja vastaamme ja reagoimme erilaisilla tavoilla ja teemme erilaisia tilanteita erilaisin. KÀytÀ yksinkertaisuutta.
That's really, I think, what it's trying to say, or should be saying, but it's dressed up in this language. And I can understand now why police officers, A, are confused, and B, they might overcorrect and deal with allegations of racism or race hate in a way that's perhaps over the top.
I think for some police officers that's probably very true. I think for others they will respond more differently perhaps and they've got more confidence. But I know back in 2020 I did a Radio 4 documentary looking at racism in the police. And one of the things that's very striking is, and I think it's probably still the case, that black officers, black members of police staff and ethnic minorities broadly are overrepresented in the police misconduct system.
verrattuna heidÀn vihreÀmpÀÀnsÀ. Yksi seurauksista, joista se on laitettu eteenpÀin, ja joissa on olemassa monenlaisia raportteja, jotta ymmÀrretÀÀn miksi, on se, ettÀ kun vanha tai etnillinen vahvistusjohtaja on huomannut vaikka hieman pysyvÀÀ tai hieman pysyvÀÀ, sen sijaan kuin kÀsittelemÀÀn se informaattisesti,
heidÀn johtajansa ja ympÀristöjÀnsÀ ovat niin pysyviÀ siitÀ, ettÀ he sanovat, ettÀ he sopivat kaikkea kirjassaan, joten he kÀsittelevÀt sen myötÀtunnon prosessiin,
You know, come in and have a chat. This was not the way to pay. This was not the way to respond to that situation, you know, etc. And let's deal with it. So everything becomes a formal process. And that's one of the reasons. And that shows me that there is still, certainly was then, an anxiety about dealing with race issues, a fear of being accused of racism, and generally a lack of confidence when dealing with black officers who are accused of misconduct.
Ja se on se, miksi mielestÀni tÀytyy olla todellinen nÀkökulma poliisien kautta.
nÀistÀ erilaisista koulutusohjelmista, joista jotkut ovat kritisoineet. Antirasismi-ohjelmien koulutusohjelmat. Onko niillÀ oikea vaikutus, oikea vaikutus? Onko se vain yksityiskohtainen koulutus? Onko se vauhti aikaa? Onko se vahvistettavaa työntekijöitÀ?
I think, why not? Let's have that look. And it may be that broadly it's in the right place, but it needs some tweaking. Or it may be actually it's not in the right place. But I think we should have the confidence to be able to do that. I don't think that means necessarily that what happened to Henry Novak is a direct result of that. But clearly there is concern around these issues. And so why not? Let's examine it.
Minun nÀkökulmani on, ettÀ Yhdysvallan poliittinen hallitus on oikea osa katsomaan hallituksen toimintaa ja onnistumista, ja onnistumista, ja onnistumista, ja onnistumista, ja onnistumista,
Henriin kuolemista, joka on yksityiskohtaisempaa, joka myös kÀsittelee niitÀ asioita. En edes nyt usko, ettÀ tarvitaan toinen tutkimus. Luulen, ettÀ nÀmÀ kaksi asiaa on tarpeeksi. IOPC-tutkimuksen jÀlkeen voi olla, ettÀ siellÀ on huolimattomuuskysymyksiÀ. Voi myös olla, ettÀ siellÀ on kriminaalisia kysymyksiÀ. TÀllÀ hetkellÀ huolimattomuuskysymykset ovat olleet tutkittuja, joten ne eivÀt
Yeah, Henry Novak was murdered by a man who was carrying a knife. And he was a victim of knife crime. And I do think that that's actually what we should be discussing. And I do think that there needs to be a review of that legislation. And it does seem to me that it's wrong that people should be allowed to carry those weapons around.
YmmÀrrÀn, ettÀ heillÀ on religiallisia tunteita, ymmÀrrÀn sitÀ, mutta se ei tarkoita, ettÀ meidÀn tÀytyy pysÀhtyÀ kaikkien religioiden tunteisiin, mielestÀni, ja erityisesti, kun puhutaan niistÀ pidempiÀ raitoja. Vikram Diggor oli kÀrsinyt, luulen, 8-kielisen raiton, joka oli pidempi raito.
So I absolutely would support that and for the government to redouble its efforts on tackling knife crime. I think it's made some good progress and it's doing some good work on that already.
The need for a large, there's a debate even about whether or not the size of knife like that could be regarded as a ceremonial weapon. Well, you could kill someone with a small knife as well. I mean, obviously this is very rare. I don't know if there have been other cases in which a Sikh person has used their kirpan to stab someone or kill someone. It's very rare, but nevertheless I think it should be reviewed.