Darby Saxbe

So they're doing way more diaper changes.

And yeah, like I do think that's a good omen for how the dad is going to stay involved because we think of it as this gross thing.

But there's also some intimacy there.

Like you have the baby, you know, kind of as a captive audience and you're keeping it entertained while you do your stuff.

And like that can be a real moment of connection.

Yeah.

Oh, yes, the moro reflex, right?

I'm not sure if he's thinking about this, but there's a thing where if you drop the baby, the baby's arms naturally extend because it's like it shows our primate heritage because it's extending to grasp the fur.

So actually, when my mom, who's like a real science nerd, met my first baby for the very first time, she dropped her to test the moro reflex.

But the idea of dads tossing babies around, too, is like a I think, again, like you see it across different species.

Yeah.

So it's not just a human adaptation.

Totally.

Like the dad joke is like a thing.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I know I'm very cringy to my kids and so is my husband.

And I think it's just it's a funny way to get a rise out of kids, like especially teens, because they start kind of caring about what's cool and they have their own lingo.

And like you can be so out of touch as an adult that I think it's actually just a source of entertainment for parents.

Yeah.

Yeah, I'm still saying skibbity to my kids.