Dario Amodei

Trying to take some of the worst applications of the technology, which could be some versions of these drones, which could be, you know, they're used to create these terrifying biological weapons.

Like there is some precedent for the worst abuses being curbed.

often because they're horrifying while at the same time they provide limited strategic advantage.

So I'm all in favor of that.

I'm at the same time, you know, a little concerned and a little skeptical that, you know, when things, you know, kind of directly provide as much power as possible, it's kind of hard to get out of the game given what's at stake, right?

It's hard to fully disarm.

You know, if we go back to the Cold War, you know, we were able to reduce the

the number of missiles that both sides had.

But we were not able to entirely forsake nuclear weapons.

And I would guess that we would be in this world again.

We can hope for a better one.

And I'll certainly, you know, I'll certainly advocate for it.

I mean, I think there's a few things.

And, you know, I just want to caveat, like, you know, I'm no international politics expert here.

Like, I think, you know, this is this weird world of like intersection of a new technology with geopolitics.

I'm learning as much as I can about it.

I just, we should all have, we should all have humility here.

Like, I think there's a failure mode where you, you know, read a book and go around, you know, like the world's greatest expert in national security.

I'm trying to learn what I can.

That's what my profession does, not, but...