Dario Amodei

No, and we haven't.

It's,

is much more difficult.

Let me give you something I'm very optimistic about.

And then something I'm like, not, you know, not optimistic about and something in between.

So the idea of using a, you know, a worldwide agreement to restrain the use of AI to build biological weapons, right.

Some of the things I write about in the essay, like reconstituting smallpox or mirror life, this stuff is scary.

It doesn't matter if you're a dictator.

You don't want that.

No one wants that.

And so could we have a worldwide treaty that says everyone who builds powerful AI models is going to block them from doing this?

And we have enforcement mechanisms around the treaty, like China signs up for it, like hell, maybe even North Korea signs up for it.

Even Russia signs up for it.

I don't think that's too utopian.

I think that's possible.

Conversely, if we had something that said, you know, you're not going to make the next most powerful AI model.

Everyone's going to stop.

Boy, the commercial value is in the tens of trillions.

The military value is like this is the difference between being the preeminent world power and not like I'm like all proposing it as long as it's not one of these fake out games.

But it's it's not going to happen.