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Dario Amodei

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
2714 total appearances

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Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

You know, that's not my vision.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

Well, we're going to talk about that.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

But just this idea that, you know, can we deliver on the promise of equal opportunity and equal justice by some combination of AI and humans?

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

There has to be some way to do that.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

And so, you know, just thinking about reinventing democracy for the AI age and enhancing liberty instead of reducing it.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

You know, it's hard to predict these things because the technology is moving so fast and kind of moves so unevenly.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

So at least a couple of principles for figuring out and then I'll give my guesses at like what I think will be disrupted.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

So, you know, one thing is I think the technology itself is.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

and its capabilities will be ahead of the actual job disruption.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

Two things have to happen for jobs to be disrupted or for productivity to occur, because sometimes those two things are linked.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

One is the technology has to be capable of doing it.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

And the second is there's this messy thing of, you know,

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

It actually has to be applied within a large bank or a large company or, you know, think about customer service or something, right?

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

You know, in theory, AI customer service agents can be much better than human customer service agents.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

They're more patient.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

They know more.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

They handle things in a more uniform way.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

But the actual logistics and the actual process of making that substitution, that takes some time.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
Is Claude Coding Us Into Irrelevance?

So, I'm very bullish about the kind of the direction of the AI itself.