Darren Dreger

Well, you need a certain type of player.

Not a knuckle-dragger, but a guy who's got that intestinal fortitude to get in there.

And we see it in the playoffs.

We see it time and time again with guys who step up and elevate their level of compete.

So that's what Austin Matthews would be thinking and would be hoping for at this point.

Jonas?

Yeah, just to interject, Jonas.

Obviously, Chayka is having conversations with fellow general managers.

You have to, right?

I mean, everybody's presenting their shopping lists.

They're not disclosing what they're willing to part with.

But, you know, you test the market.

Here's what we're looking for.

Okay, well... And he's open to the idea of having conversations about a lot of players not named Austin Matthews, to be frank.

As he should be, right?

You know, I had a couple of teams say to me that...

Chayka's view on whether or not Matthew Nyes is legitimately a piece that they would part with seems to change from one day to the next, but that's fine.

He's entitled to that.

I mean, if I were John, I would say, okay, well, unless somebody drops an offer on my table that makes me actually consider moving Matthew Nyes, then no, I'm not going to trade him.

I'm not going to devalue the asset.