Dreger on Matthews' future with the Maple Leafs, Carle's next steps and Cassidy's future
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What insights does Darren Dreger share about Auston Matthews' future with the Maple Leafs?
Brian Hayes, Jonas Siegel, Jamie Noodles, McLennan, Darren Dreger, our TSN Hockey Insider in studio. What's happening, Dreggs?
I'm doing okay. Casual Thursday today. Don't have the TSN uniform on yet. Got in here early, 8 p.m. start. You know, of course, we've got to do 6 p.m. pregame. Yeah, on SportsCenter. Right, for game one tonight. Yeah, I felt like it would be okay. And I did catch a look at your sweater, Hayes, and I thought, yeah, I can get away with it.
This is literally a tailored sweater.
Somebody made that for you?
From the cloakroom in Montreal. Yeah, it's the greatest place in the country.
Wow.
Like, I know where you guys get your clothes, so don't even start. Hey, cloakroom.
Unbelievable. That's where you get mine.
You get yours? Yeah. All right.
Then you should know better.
You know who is an owner in this company? James Van Reemsteg.
Van Reemsteg. I know. He sent us a suit one day. We'll hold that against you.
It's a brilliant place. What are you talking about? I'll be between the benches, and he'll look at me, and I'll give him the old, like,
He knows what's up. I wore this somewhat in protest.
Oh, very nice. I like that. Nothing wrong with that. He has no idea. No idea. It's all for peril.
Yeah, it's all good. See, I was just, honestly, I look.
You got to keep it down over there. Watch yourself. Watch yourself. This isn't a Ray and Dreggs podcast. This is Overdrive we're dealing with. Bobby Mac just texted me, nice hoodie. Yeah, you think he's not still working angles?
No.
I know, and he's up too.
So this is, you got a free hoodie on.
Well, I'm not saying that. I didn't say that. Dreggs may be intimating that. Pretty sure I didn't pay for it. Exactly. One or the other. So we just had a spirited debate. Jonas thinks Austin Matthews should have ownership in Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment.
Was that your argument?
10% of ownership.
He goes at him.
That's the thing. Anyway, we're trying to figure out what the checklist for 34 is. Do you have any idea what you think that might be? What do you think is running through his head? What does he want to see in the next month and a half?
Roster improvement. At least that was his view when he went to the exit interviews with... At the time, I guess, who would have been involved? Certainly, Craig Berube as head coach at the time. Yeah, I mean, they talked about how you improve that roster, the areas of need. You know, the number two center. That winger may happen somewhat organically via the draft now with McKenna. You know, how impactful can he be, assuming they take him first overall? And... Work on the blue line, right? Move some guys out, bring some guys in. They need another right shot. Those are the things that Matthews and Nylander didn't request, but that was their view, their opinion on how they could improve. There was buy-in in terms of how they play the game, how Berube wanted them, insisted and preached and barked about how they play the game.
Well, you need a certain type of player. Not a knuckle-dragger, but a guy who's got that intestinal fortitude to get in there. And we see it in the playoffs. We see it time and time again with guys who step up and elevate their level of compete. So that's what Austin Matthews would be thinking and would be hoping for at this point. Jonas?
Can you chime in on that? I mean, I think what's tricky, there's so much for them to do. Yeah. Like, just think of your John Shiker right now. You got to go out and hire a coach. That alone, like, how long does that take? Like, how many candidates you have to... You know what I mean? And you have to build out your front office staff. Then you need to figure out what you're going to do with the number one pick. Are you just going to take McKenna? Are you going to explore other things? Are you going to trade Nyes? Like, how are you going to get the defenseman? How are you going to... Like, there's just so much to do.
How can the Maple Leafs improve their roster according to Dreger?
And that's where, like... You look at what they put in place, like, with an inexperienced GM, no president. Like, it's just, like, I don't know if they're going to be able to do it.
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